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Old 03-24-2016, 03:45 AM
 
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You're more likely to be killed in a mass shooting in the US, or if there are guns in your house, to be shot by one of them.
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Old 03-24-2016, 04:22 AM
 
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You're more likely to be killed in a mass shooting in the US, or if there are guns in your house, to be shot by one of them.

Not sure. The US is the home turf of you people, so normally you are more streetwise here than in Europe where , as a tourist, you will be most of the time in airports, train stations and diverse venues theoretically at risk . Besides there is a difference between to be exposed to a danger at home (you can't avoid it anyway save if you leave your country) and paying to travel specifically to countries on high terrorist alert.
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Old 03-24-2016, 04:53 AM
 
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I was in the British army in the 70s, when England was having to deal with IRA bombings. Didn't stop me socializing in London. Last year my wife and I stayed at the same hotel in Tunisia, where 38 people were murdered on the beach in front of the hotel. We had only returned from there two weeks before the slaughter.

We are flying out to Spain in five weeks. The situation will have to deteriorate much more to stop us. The odds of being killed by a terrorist is very small. As others here say, live your life without fear.
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Old 03-24-2016, 04:58 AM
 
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My husband and I are supposed to go to Italy in three weeks and the media keeps reporting about attacks being planned all over Europe. Would you still take your trip after what happened today? I've been excited about this for so long, but it's scary to think about what's going on in Europe right now. I know it could happen anywhere, but you have to be cautious. They're warning people to avoid all crowded areas, which I imagine is pretty hard to do when you're touring Rome or Florence.
One should not stop their life and their plans and give into terrorism. But one should still be vigilant when one is out and about.
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Old 03-24-2016, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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I flew to Vegas two weeks after 9/11. Everyone said I was nuts to go. The plane was half empty. But I went, and I had a GREAT time.
I know what you mean. I went to Manhattan a week after 9/11, to attend the meeting I was supposed to be going to on that very day. I was never treated better in a hotel in my entire life. They were so happy to have customers it was upgrades on everything.
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Old 03-24-2016, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Probability of anything happening to you personally is so low that there really is no reason to worry; you're more likely to die on the way to the airport in a car wreck. A terrorist attack can happen anywhere in any country; you can't live your life in constant fear.
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:24 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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I am very glad we went to Europe when we did, because we sure are not going there now.
Maybe you should 'grow a pair'.
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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You're more likely to be killed in a mass shooting in the US, or if there are guns in your house, to be shot by one of them.
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Not sure. The US is the home turf of you people, so normally you are more streetwise here than in Europe where , as a tourist, you will be most of the time in airports, train stations and diverse venues theoretically at risk . Besides there is a difference between to be exposed to a danger at home (you can't avoid it anyway save if you leave your country) and paying to travel specifically to countries on high terrorist alert.
It's not like we live for free here. We PAY to live here as well. I cannot understand why someone would be so terrified of traveling to a European country when they live in a country where violence happens everyday. Do they not see it? Do they live in a bubble? I just don't get it.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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I was in the British army in the 70s, when England was having to deal with IRA bombings. Didn't stop me socializing in London. Last year my wife and I stayed at the same hotel in Tunisia, where 38 people were murdered on the beach in front of the hotel. We had only returned from there two weeks before the slaughter.

We are flying out to Spain in five weeks. The situation will have to deteriorate much more to stop us. The odds of being killed by a terrorist is very small. As others here say, live your life without fear.
I would do the same. I flew to Paris 4 weeks after the massacre and never felt the slightest uneasiness.


All this paranoia really shows how clueless, gullible and maybe uneducated many people are - they exaggerate the risk and assume just avoiding the whole place is "safe" and smart. Seriously some terrorist attacks won't change the overall safety of Europe - which is an immense continent.


The logic way of thinking is: you can never predict or prevent it. Who says the next attack won't happen in the US? What makes traveling to Europe any more dangerous than staying at home? Should the Americans just pack and move to Manitoba, Canada?


In all seriousness, one's sweet home in suburban Virginia isn't any safer than downtown Brussels.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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Heading on a two week trip in May that will include London, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, and Denmark. Without a doubt, I am still going, and will not be scared!
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