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Old 04-27-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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That is correct. In Chicago, which is reputed to have good public trans, it's good if you live and work near the red, brown, or blue lines and are not in a hurry. Otherwise, it's horrible.

Chicago DOES have a pretty good public transportation system although it is less good on the Southside and other disadvantaged neighborhoods.

However, I look forward to using CTA about as much as I look forward to a root canal. The trains and buses are filthy and not maintained very well. Train delays are fairly common from time to time as they need to slow down in certain areas due to poor track conditions. And the stations are an absolute mess.

What is ironic is that the experience on the various METRA lines - operated by the railroads - is quite pleasant.
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Old 04-27-2016, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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the only city that I know in the US with good public transportation is NYC (especially the subway system).

for all the other cities that people are citing above, public transportation is either not reliable, not good, expensive or not covering much of the city.

For example in LA it doesnt cover much, and in SF it is very expensive and not reliable.
Washington, DC may not be up to European standards, but I find it quite practical when visiting the city to fly into Reagan airport, on the Metro, and use Metro and my own two feet to get around without a car. Although I am a car guy to the core, driving in DC is damn awful, I prefer not to drive there at all.

Atlanta, GA has a decent light rail, but it only serves a small part of the metro area. It's been decades since I rode a bus there, but when I did, service was OK. The Atlanta light rail (MARTA) is IMHO the best way to get to the north side of town from the airport if you fly in.
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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However, I look forward to using CTA about as much as I look forward to a root canal. The trains and buses are filthy and not maintained very well. Train delays are fairly common from time to time as they need to slow down in certain areas due to poor track conditions. And the stations are an absolute mess.
Yeah totally agree. I also felt like a lot of times the trains moved so slow. Like I was on a historic streetcar without dedicated ROW or something. I remember watching the movie Wanted and some of the high-power action sequences occur on top of the El Trains and I was thinking...the train never goes THAT fast!

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Washington, DC may not be up to European standards, but I find it quite practical when visiting the city to fly into Reagan airport, on the Metro, and use Metro and my own two feet to get around without a car. Although I am a car guy to the core, driving in DC is damn awful, I prefer not to drive there at all.

Atlanta, GA has a decent light rail, but it only serves a small part of the metro area. It's been decades since I rode a bus there, but when I did, service was OK. The Atlanta light rail (MARTA) is IMHO the best way to get to the north side of town from the airport if you fly in.
Totally agree about DC and Atlanta. Just noting that MARTA is heavy rail.
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Old 04-27-2016, 11:12 PM
 
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Yeah totally agree. I also felt like a lot of times the trains moved so slow. Like I was on a historic streetcar without dedicated ROW or something. I remember watching the movie Wanted and some of the high-power action sequences occur on top of the El Trains and I was thinking...the train never goes THAT fast!.

For the last 10+ years, the Chicago CTA Blue Line has been plagues by slowdowns because of the deterioration of track conditions along the line. At times, many of these trains have been running as slow as 20 mph.

For more on track deterioration, see the NTSB report issues as a result of a 2006 derailment:

http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/A...ts/RAR0702.pdf

See page 29 if you want to see something scary.
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Old 04-28-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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Page 29? I must have missed what you were trying to point out.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Talmadge, San Diego, CA
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I live in San Diego, and have a vehicle, but I take public transportation most of the time. Driving is an option for me, and I don't drive to work. Therefore, I always have 1/2 tank of gas for when I decide I want to drive somewhere. My van stays p parked until I decide to use it.
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Old 04-30-2016, 11:30 PM
 
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Chicago DOES have a pretty good public transportation system...[from same post different paragraph] The trains and buses are filthy and not maintained very well. Train delays are fairly common from time to time as they need to slow down in certain areas due to poor track conditions. And the stations are an absolute mess.
Cognitive dissonance?
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:40 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I think it's generally conceded that NYC has the best public transportation in the US. I haven't owned a car in 20+ years here & don't even notice it unless I need to go out of town to some suburb out of state. I lived for 20+ years in other cities & being without a car was pretty unthinkable.

Plus it's an easy/safe walking city as well which is a form of public transportation too.
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