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Old 09-21-2017, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Ithaca, New York
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There is a good representation everywhere, people in the embassies do a good job.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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I call BS on that list. I would like to hear an explanation of why Canada is not on the list. A Canadian passport, as well as other Commonwealth Countries, should be pretty similar to a UK passport, as far as travel accessibility goes.
Poorer Commonwealth countries in Caribbean and Africa don't have the same access as UK, Canada or Aus.
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Old 09-21-2017, 05:03 PM
 
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US citizens is also paying through the nose for evisa due to reciprocity.

For example, for Australia, ETA is $20 for USA. EU can have evisitor and it is free.
For India, evisa for US is $75, EU is $50.
A lot of the visas and fees that are levied on US citizens are due to reciprocity. We make their citizens have a visa and pay a fee, they return the favor.
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Old 09-22-2017, 01:45 AM
 
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They are not equal.

A US passport was once the most powerful passport. I never needed a visa to visit anywhere. Recently, that has changed.

Now I would agree that Germany is probably the most powerful visa.
that is only because you only visited countries where a visa is not needed. American always need a visa to go to many countries.

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Old 09-22-2017, 01:48 AM
 
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A lot of the visas and fees that are levied on US citizens are due to reciprocity. We make their citizens have a visa and pay a fee, they return the favor.
yep, and the same amount is a much heavier burden to the people of the other country than on Americans, so Americans really have nothing to complain.
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Old 09-22-2017, 05:09 AM
 
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This is all wrong, the "power" of a passport isn't only in how accessable it is as a travel document, but it represents citizenship, a pass, that gets one out of all sorts of trouble. Use it to check into hotels, cash checks, make train reservations, show police during a random stop, etc.
Let's see how often Singapore send a battalion of marines in blackhawks to airlift it's citizens out of danger in a foreign country during an emergency.

I submit a good gauge of power is it's value on the black market. There is a HUGE market in stolen passports, which are then altered, with a US passport BY FAR being the most valuable. I don't know the value of a US passport but the below article gives some value estimates:
Italian, British, Spanish and other European passports fetch about $1,000, Tinawut said, while Israeli passports cost $1,500-$2,000 and Canadian can go for up to $3,000.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...me-gangs-world
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:29 AM
 
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I don't know the value of a US passport but the below article gives some value estimates:
Italian, British, Spanish and other European passports fetch about $1,000, Tinawut said, while Israeli passports cost $1,500-$2,000 and Canadian can go for up to $3,000.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...me-gangs-world
I've heard, over the years, numbers between $10,000 and $20,000 for a stolen US passport, I guess you could find out on the dark web.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:36 AM
 
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I've heard, over the years, numbers between $10,000 and $20,000 for a stolen US passport, I guess you could find out on the dark web.
Yup, no surprise. Someone from Singapore of all places warned me of the theft value of a US passport and told me to specifically be careful.

Passports are "breeder documents" - the value is in what other additional documents you can generate from that one single document.
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I've heard, over the years, numbers between $10,000 and $20,000 for a stolen US passport, I guess you could find out on the dark web.
Trying to do internet price searches on illegal activity is difficult. As for prices...this article claims a Singaporean Passport is worth up to $50,000 Singaporean dollars which is $37,000 USD.

S'pore passport worth up to $50,000, Singapore News - AsiaOne

This report says the passport with the highest demand is a Canadian one, followed by Ireland. So logically the highest demand ones should be the highest priced one, but this article has a totally different claim as to the price of Irelands, the second one most in demand. It's much lower than what the Singaporeans claim.

Average Price of Stolen Passport for Sale - Havocscope


I'm guessing since it's such an illegal activity the prices vary from who and where you are buying it from??

Anyway, I always guard mine carefully.

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