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Old 10-29-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Quite a long list! My 2 cents? Consider Portugal - safe, lively & inexpensive (good for retired budget) with 2 wonderful cities: Lisbon & Oporto & a great southern coastline beach resort area: the Algarve. Also coastal Croatia is worth a visit: Split to Dubrovnik + the islands. Safe also for a senior gal: Ireland, (not Europe: Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore). I've heard that Iceland is interesting as well by those who visited there.
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Old 10-29-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Quite a long list! My 2 cents? Consider Portugal - safe, lively & inexpensive (good for retired budget) with 2 wonderful cities: Lisbon & Oporto & a great southern coastline beach resort area: the Algarve. Also coastal Croatia is worth a visit: Split to Dubrovnik + the islands. Safe also for a senior gal: Ireland, (not Europe: Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore). I've heard that Iceland is interesting as well by those who visited there.
Yes, most places in Asia are very safe, but I have been to Asia a lot in the recent years. Re Mediterranean Europe, I actually lived thereabouts as a child, so have a lesser interest in it than in the North and continental areas. The list is constructed based on many things I have read or thought about over the years (and in some cases, based on good memories from distant past, and the wish to go there again in different time), so I am not actually looking for suggestions where else to go (as you see, I am well supplied with destinations :-) - I just need to know what to avoid (and perhaps what new developments to see) in those places I have listed. I hope some Englush, French, German etc people will also chime in on this thread with local opinions.
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Old 10-29-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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I've been to a number of European cities in the past (mostly back in the sixties/seventies) but given the state of the world right now, I don't think I'd go anywhere in Europe. Same goes for most major US cities - am I being a bit paranoid?

Walessp
Most major US cities (except for the famously ghettoish areas of these cities where visitors don't go anyway) are actually extremely safe, and much safer than in the 70s. Based on my experiences, large cities are actually safer than small towns if you are traveling in the US. Regarding Europe... well, I have been busy living and working in the US for 35 years, so am out of touch... the reason why I want to collect some advice here.

There is always one in a billion chance something can happen out in a crowd like this shooting in Las Vegas recently, but if you lock yourself in the bedroom for 30 years there is also one in a billion chance that you may have a house fire or get burglarized by Charles Manson.
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Old 10-29-2017, 07:01 PM
 
Location: On the road
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Add Romania. It's got beautiful landscapes, castles, charming squares, is affordable, and way less crowded than most of the Western European destinations.

Can't miss in Romania = Brasov. Very walkable city with lots to see and do.



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Old 10-29-2017, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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Always know where the exit is, whether you're on a plane, in a hotel, visiting a museum, watching a performer in a city square, or just walking across a bridge in London.
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Old 10-30-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Most major US cities (except for the famously ghettoish areas of these cities where visitors don't go anyway) are actually extremely safe, and much safer than in the 70s. Based on my experiences, large cities are actually safer than small towns if you are traveling in the US. Regarding Europe... well, I have been busy living and working in the US for 35 years, so am out of touch... the reason why I want to collect some advice here.

There is always one in a billion chance something can happen out in a crowd like this shooting in Las Vegas recently, but if you lock yourself in the bedroom for 30 years there is also one in a billion chance that you may have a house fire or get burglarized by Charles Manson.
I believe that statistically you are still much safer in European cities compared to US cities, if its any comfort to you there are millions of women living and going about their daily lives safely in the cities of Europe, asking if any first world cities (either side of the pond) are safe is a bit like asking if its safe to fly.
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Old 10-30-2017, 07:45 AM
 
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I believe that statistically you are still much safer in European cities compared to US cities, if its any comfort to you there are millions of women living and going about their daily lives safely in the cities of Europe, asking if any first world cities (either side of the pond) are safe is a bit like asking if its safe to fly.
Well the politics of crime aren't really what the OP asked but...

Have you ever been here? We have over 300 Million people and can say the same about our daily lives.

There's no statistical comparison. This topic is a riddle with no answer, albeit hotly debated even HERE in the US, because the reporting and definition of "city", "safety" and "crime" is so disparate among all these places and the US.

IE: People love throwing around the "gun violence" claim here, when 60% of the figures are attributable to suicides.

IE: The UK having it's own internal debate on the topic of "crime" even omitting the larger scale "terror" activities.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...e-figures-show

I do think the OP can rely on the evident fewer high profile European terrorist incidents of 2017 compared to 2016, though, if that holds true. If that's her concern. My guess is it'll take ISIS inspired recruitment a while to make up for losing it's power this year.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:57 AM
 
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I've been to a number of European cities in the past (mostly back in the sixties/seventies) but given the state of the world right now, I don't think I'd go anywhere in Europe. Same goes for most major US cities - am I being a bit paranoid?

Walessp
You are way too paranoid.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:06 AM
 
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You are way too paranoid.
Yes, and I doubt where he lives now is any safer than Europe.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:13 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Well the politics of crime aren't really what the OP asked but...

Have you ever been here? We have over 300 Million people and can say the same about our daily lives.

There's no statistical comparison. This topic is a riddle with no answer, albeit hotly debated even HERE in the US, because the reporting and definition of "city", "safety" and "crime" is so disparate among all these places and the US.

IE: People love throwing around the "gun violence" claim here, when 60% of the figures are attributable to suicides.

IE: The UK having it's own internal debate on the topic of "crime" even omitting the larger scale "terror" activities.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...e-figures-show

I do think the OP can rely on the evident fewer high profile European terrorist incidents of 2017 compared to 2016, though, if that holds true. If that's her concern. My guess is it'll take ISIS inspired recruitment a while to make up for losing it's power this year.
I wasn't trying to have a 'dig' at US cities but rather trying to show just how 'safe' European cities are. I believe statistically you are in greater danger in the US but that doesn't mean I think its a lawless hellhole there either! The point is worrying about coming to Europe is just paranoia. I believe also (for example) that the UK had more 'terrorist incidents' in the 70's and 80's than it does now (mostly IRA) yet it didn't seem to deter people from travelling to London back then. Don't get me started on the gun violence thing! Even taking away the suicides the amount of people shot to death in the US is astronomical, it wouldn't stop me visiting though.
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