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Old 11-02-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Brookhaven
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Some businesspeople have multiple passports because some countries will hold onto a passport for 2-4 weeks when you apply for a business visa and the second passport lets you leave the country while passport #1 is sitting in the mailroom of the Somethingstan consulate. The US government is perfectly okay with this as long as you can explain and document the need for the back-up passport
This...if you travel every couple of weeks there is no time for visa processing
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Old 11-02-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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Some businesspeople have multiple passports because some countries will hold onto a passport for 2-4 weeks when you apply for a business visa and the second passport lets you leave the country while passport #1 is sitting in the mailroom of the Somethingstan consulate. The US government is perfectly okay with this as long as you can explain and document the need for the back-up passport
Do you really think Manafort was applying for a "business visa" when he was doing all this travel?
That seems too "up front" and obvious for someone with his connections in the business he was in...
He wasn't trying to import/export electronic components or clothing or build a mfg plant---
He was about connections, moving/hiding money, and political campaigns--propaganda, paying off officials, etc

To me, having three passports--even in his name/not alias--with separate registration numbers just makes it more difficult to track his travel--to see easily where he went and when--

It is like someone taking measures to obscure their trail from anyone who might be interested in knowing what you were doing and when
And I am sure there were people who would have wanted to know that about Manafort even before this current difficulty
He was a big player in a fairly small pool of lobbyists--an elite--
Look at his clients--
He swam with big fish in a global pool----
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Old 11-02-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Do you really think Manafort was applying for a "business visa" when he was doing all this travel?
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He was about connections, moving/hiding money, and political campaigns--propaganda, paying off officials, etc

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He was a big player in a fairly small pool of lobbyists--an elite--
Look at his clients--
He swam with big fish in a global pool----
It is a very good idea to have multiple passports and identity and countries when you are in his type of business...

He is WANTED by more then the officials... the other crowd does not play so nice (they provide cement shoes rather than 5* prisons)

He was just doing his due diligence to have multiple ID's. (Standard business practice for his choice of careers) And, of course he had the money to do it... seems there is about $50m missing.. that went somewhere? Multiple ID's... they are CHEAP insurance.

Most of us do not successfully operate in this realm... (for long)
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Old 11-02-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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Personally I dont think Manafort will crack because Putin kills people who threaten/betray him
Trump is not the threat--Putin and his henchmen are
Swim with sharks--fall prey to sharks
Bobby Three Sticks is scary but he won't have you killed...
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Old 11-02-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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We are reading that Paul Manafort has three passports. I don't know if he them under different names. Why would someone who travels a lot have tgree? How could just one person even obtain three passports in the US?

Seasoned travelers, any thoughts?
Sometimes one needs them to travel to certain countries. For instance, many Arab and Muslim countries will not admit anyone who has an Israeli stamp in their passport. So if someone needs to travel to those countries, the State Dep't will issue them a second passport, restricted to use when entering/exiting Israel, and they can use the other passport to travel to countries that impose this restriction.
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Old 11-02-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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I hold 4 passports.


Canadian by birth. UK via my Mother ( born in London ) The Bahamas through my Wife ( born in Nassau ) and The Republic of Ireland through my Father.


XXXX,
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Old 11-02-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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Manafort--as far as reported--has only US passports under his name with different registration numbers
Have not heard he has any from another country
Might be difficult to know if he as any under an alias especially from a foreign country
Would almost have to catch him in the act of using it
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Old 11-02-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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Cuba doesn't stamp passports. They issue a tourist visa on a slip of paper, and take it on your departure.
Need to look at mine, I was there in March and swore they stamped it.
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Old 11-03-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: London U.K.
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Kind of on this subject, just off on a slight tangent.
My elder son married a German girl, lived there for a long time, and became a dual citizen of U.K. and Germany.
Some 6 or 7 years back, they decided to migrate to Australia, after 4 years there, he became an Aussie citizen.
Not long after, his wife decided that she missed her mother, and Der Vaterland too much, and she went back to Germany, taking their two kids.
He struggled with deciding whether or not to stay on his own, but within six months realised that he missed his wife, and in particular, his two boys, so he sold his house and car, and planned his return to Germany.
Arriving in Frankfurt on an overnight from Brisbane via Bangkok, physically drained, he produced his Australian passport at immigration, rather than his U.K. or German one, both of which he had with him.
As he prepared to doze off on the train from Frankfurt to his home in Bielefeld, he looked at the passport, and noticed that German Immigration had given him a 6 month stay, as an Australian tourist!
He had to jump through all kinds of hoops to stop the authorities from maybe deporting him back to Australia six months after getting home.
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Old 11-03-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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Need to look at mine, I was there in March and swore they stamped it.
They probably did. I know that mine was stamped when I went last year. Before travel restrictions were lifted, they would only stamp the visa but not the book. I'm mildly irritated that my passport was stamped because the ink was pretty wet so it transferred a little on the opposite page and space in my book is starting to become precious.
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