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Old 02-18-2019, 11:33 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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I bet it was fun

OP should have fun too... assuming he is properly prepared.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:13 AM
 
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I would keep a few small currency notes handy - preferably 1 dollar bills. in case of an emergency.

Demand of bribe may be common in some countries when law enforcement like traffic police, border control etc notice a foreign license plate on a car EVEN if the driver has done nothing wrong,
 
Old 02-19-2019, 01:50 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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I would keep a few small currency notes handy - preferably 1 dollar bills. in case of an emergency.

Demand of bribe may be common in some countries when law enforcement like traffic police, border control etc notice a foreign license plate on a car EVEN if the driver has done nothing wrong,
Cigarettes work well for bribes.
 
Old 02-19-2019, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Visa seems to be not a problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_r...quirements_map

Renting car in Germany - Rental Qualifications and Requirements:
This is for Hertz, but its very much possible that other rental car agencies have the same rules.
Hertz vehicles cannot be driven into and/or dropped off in any African, Asian or Middle-East countries.
https://www.hertz.com/rentacar/reser...TIONS&EOAG=AAL

Also read this:
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/africa/...and-motorcycle

Are you comfortable with right-hand traffic?
https://www.worldstandards.eu/cars/l...ing-countries/


and this:
Taking a car across Africa takes quite a bit of planning and is not cheap. For many countries, especially north of Kenya, you need a carnet, or passport for the car which usually involves making a fairly substantial deposit/bank guarantee or insurance policy to cover any customs liabilities. This will depend on where the car itself is registered and where it's going but to give you the worst case scenario we had to provide a bank guarantee to our home motoring association (the RAC in the UK) for 8 times the value of our car (which is UK registered) to be able to temporarily import it into Egypt. You lose this money if you don't/can't export it again so buying a wreck you are happy to write off isn't an option. You have to buy insurance in each country as well as other road and carbon taxes. Fuel can also be very expensive in parts - not far off European prices.
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntr...nya-to-morocco
https://www.asabbatical.com/article/...verland-by-car



Other tips:
https://www.thecommonwanderer.com/bl...ca-travel-tips
https://theworldpursuit.com/travel-africa-tips/

So... how is your planning going so far?
Do you have experiences traveling in Africa or any countries other than Europe?
What do you know about the English speaking population in Africa? What other languages do you speak?
Hint: Pretty much people of all of northern Africa and Francophone Africa don't speak English.
https://africa-facts.org/english-spe...ies-in-africa/
What about renting a hotel room?
Ordering food?
Vaccination requirements?

And a bonus question:
what is your budget for the 7 weeks trip across Africa?
So previously I was planning to go to Germany to hire a petrol/diesel car. This is because I'm 18 and Germany is pretty much the only European country that allows rental at 18. However I have now decided to lease a Mini Countryman Hybrid for part of a 12 or 24 month contract from a UK dealer. This allows me to travel with electric until there are no further charging points, at which point the petrol engine kicks in. The minimum age for a lease is 18 in the UK.

I haven't been to Africa yet, so it will be my first time outside of Europe.

English is an official language in Kenya, and it is the only language I can speak.

I will be renting apartments.

I'm vegan so hopefully there's vegan food.

Not sure about this.

I aim to spend around 3000 for the whole trip.
 
Old 02-19-2019, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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The only thing that is really an issue is the Carnet de Passage, which is a guarantee that you will re-export the car from every country you enter. Expect that to require about a $5,000 deposit. And there is no way any car rental company will let you drive beyond Turkey in their vehicle.

Sudan is the only difficult visa. I believe the road will be tarmac all the way, maybe with a few short unpaved sections. Lots of trucks, all diesel. Through Turkey is the only route, unless you ferry across the Mediterranean -- the road is closed from Morocco. Ferry across Jordan-Egypt, or Sudan won't let you in if you even smell like Israel. Hard to predict what Syria will be like, you maay need to transit through Iraq and Saudi.
 
Old 02-19-2019, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Doable:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Unit...d-0.023559!3e0

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Germ...d-0.023559!3e0


BUT:
No problem with charging the electric car between the UK and Germany,
https://chargemap.com/map

but are there enough available diesel stations in Africa?
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C...3312499975!5i4

it doesn't look like...


perhaps in Kenya, but not on your way there.


The weather is going to be absolute hell on Earth going there. The highest temperature I've ever experienced was 33.8C in Alcester, UK in 2006, so this will be beaten when I go through Niger. I'm expecting 39C. At least Kenya will have good weather
 
Old 02-19-2019, 05:34 AM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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So previously I was planning to go to Germany to hire a petrol/diesel car. This is because I'm 18 and Germany is pretty much the only European country that allows rental at 18. However I have now decided to lease a Mini Countryman Hybrid for part of a 12 or 24 month contract from a UK dealer. This allows me to travel with electric until there are no further charging points, at which point the petrol engine kicks in. The minimum age for a lease is 18 in the UK.

I haven't been to Africa yet, so it will be my first time outside of Europe.

English is an official language in Kenya, and it is the only language I can speak.

I will be renting apartments.

I'm vegan so hopefully there's vegan food.

Not sure about this.

I aim to spend around 3000 for the whole trip.
Oh, dear...

How long you have drivers license already? And what's your experiences driving in foreign countries? Are you going to travel alone?
How are you going to rent apartments and communicate in non English speaking countries?
Mini for rough African roads?
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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my only concern would be which side of the road am I supposed to be on today? Probably best to sort of straddle the center line and react accordingly to vehicles coming toward you
 
Old 02-19-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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The only thing that is really an issue is the Carnet de Passage, which is a guarantee that you will re-export the car from every country you enter. Expect that to require about a $5,000 deposit. And there is no way any car rental company will let you drive beyond Turkey in their vehicle.

Sudan is the only difficult visa. I believe the road will be tarmac all the way, maybe with a few short unpaved sections. Lots of trucks, all diesel. Through Turkey is the only route, unless you ferry across the Mediterranean -- the road is closed from Morocco. Ferry across Jordan-Egypt, or Sudan won't let you in if you even smell like Israel. Hard to predict what Syria will be like, you maay need to transit through Iraq and Saudi.
Cebu is correct... hire car company needs to protect their ass-et, and there are restrictions on countries where you can travel.

Consider buying a small beater diesel pickup truck with a cover (for camping) ~ 1000.

This will also:
1) add adventure to your trip
2) avail flexibility (Can sleep in truck)
3) More robust for roads
4) less interest to robbers (you need to appear as one of 'them' / poor...
5) can drag home some treasures.
6) MUCH less expensive.
 
Old 02-19-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Oh, dear...

How long you have drivers license already? And what's your experiences driving in foreign countries? Are you going to travel alone?
How are you going to rent apartments and communicate in non English speaking countries?
Mini for rough African roads?
I haven't passed my test yet, I aim to pass in June this year. So I haven't driven in any foreign countries. Yes I am going to travel alone. I will rent apartments online and use google translate for non English speaking countries. And yes I am going in a Mini because I want something with relatively low carbon emissions.
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