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Old 06-26-2019, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Kirkland, WA (Metro Seattle)
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The number one reason? Cost. International travel is not inexpensive. Second, lack of interest. I have met many Americans who would prefer Disney World or Las Vegas to a foreign country.

There are also Americans who think that "everything anyone would want is here". Again, I do not understand.
K, good a point as any for a rebuttal.

Cost, yes. Int travel is indeed expensive. PacNW (my home) to Cape Town and back via Zimbabwe was pushing three grand in "Comfort Plus." Given multiple hops, any other way is retarded, you can't sleep in Coach (I can't, anyway. At 20, maybe, but then again I couldn't afford any of that at twenty: three grand would have been three $M to me, basically). First is ridiculous, probably seven to twelve grand. Yeah, right: not in this lifetime, and I'm "Upper Middle Class". I've got my own problems at the house, with failing landscaping and others with their hands out for money.

Staying nice places in South Africa and etc was half price due to strong dollar, mediocre Euro, and weak Rand when I was there last. That fluctuates of course. Nice-to-luxury still isn't cheap, even at half off. Do the math. I don't stay in ghettos subject to robbery and violence, which is half that country unf. (just how it is these days, and armed security is very big business there).

I wouldn't set foot on the Continent, or rather have no plans to. Ever. Waaay too expensive and I sense no love of America there. Germany, maybe, if I had a specific destination like laps at the Nurburgring. That's the only reason I'd turn up, and/or guided tours of BMW and other hobbies of mine. The rest of of it, I don't care: Western Europe, I know for a fact lot of similarities to US thinking, so...I'll save the plane fare. NY NY is cosmopolitan enough.

London is easy enough, though never cheap. Off season, couple upgrades, one long flight, I'm there 11:15am their time next day. Tons to do. I've done some of it, more to come.

And most of what I want is in-fact here or in Canada. Canada has no concerns with me, or my family (in the past) trailering through, we're spending money and not causing trouble. They can be surly, and so can we, and that's fine too.

I've had unusual foods in Africa, and in the US. Though I don't live for it, I've survived. I don't crave these new dishes, but surely am not a snob.

I'm 51, I've been to six African countries, zero European, the UK a number of times, Mexico ditto, Canada tons, that's that. That's plenty. I don't crave it, but may target some specific tourist sites in the future...my parents did the Far East once in their lives, that was enough. My dad his AUS and NZ once, too, I can see doing same. After my mom passed, my dad stayed in the U.S. and saw it plenty. He was never bored, there is a lifetime of things to see here. I've taken note of that myself.

Hope that helps, from an educated and well-heeled consumer American.
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Old 06-26-2019, 12:05 PM
 
Location: On the road
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I wouldn't set foot on the Continent, or rather have no plans to. Ever. Waaay too expensive and I sense no love of America there.
You might be surprised at how inexpensive Europe can be (it's a big diverse continent) and how little anyone cares that you're American.
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Old 06-26-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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I guess that I am fairly close to average, for an American. Been to Canada several times. Been to Mexico several times. My one trip over seas was to Australia, over three decades ago.

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Old 06-26-2019, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Upland, CA
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You might be surprised at how inexpensive Europe can be (it's a big diverse continent) and how little anyone cares that you're American.
Agreed. I never understand when people say that, 99% of the people I have met traveling in Europe have been absolutely delightful. More than I can say here, TBH.
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Old 06-26-2019, 02:59 PM
 
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You might be surprised at how inexpensive Europe can be (it's a big diverse continent) and how little anyone cares that you're American.
This is true, there are definitely places/pockets that are heck of a lot cheaper than the major tourist destinations like London, Paris, Rome, etc. but another thing to consider is the cost of a flight from the US to Europe (yes there are some deals in the off-season) and some people just don't like long flights.

I'm not trying to make excuses for Americans that don't travel to Europe, I've personally been there twice and have also been to all 7 continents, lived on two (North America and Antarctica) and been to over 35+ countries in my life, but just trying to think of other reasons, that would cause people not to go.
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Old 06-26-2019, 03:19 PM
 
Location: NoVa
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I don't understand all these multiple posts about why Americans don't travel overseas. So what if we don't? I consider travel to be a hobby, like reading, or gardening, some may enjoy it, some may not, no big deal. Your travel distance doesn't make you any better or worse than other people. We're entering the age of over tourism anyway, thanks to the internet. Even the Everest is overcrowded with tourists.

Plus people travel for different reasons. I travel for food. Some go to exotic places for bird watching trips, some go to Disney every year with their kids, while others travel for bragging rights / fame / fortune via YouTube. Then there are those who prefer to spend their hard earned money on cars or home improvements to traveling. So what? Do whatever makes you happy. Life's too short to worry about what anyone would think about your travel preference or lack of it.
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Old 06-26-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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In my experience USA has the most culturally diverse dining opportunities in the world, not even close. It's what comes with a land of immigrants and lots of immigrant communities. That goes for both restaurants and grocery stores. In most medium sized cities in USA I could hop in a car and find Mexican, Korean, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Peruvian, Italian, Indian, Greek etc. and depending city/size much more Salvadoran, Guatemalan, Taiwanese, Ethiopian, Pakistani, Moroccan, Lebanese, Colombian, Cuban, Brazilian, Afghani, Turkish, Filipino, Armenian, on and on.

Some people in all countries aren't comfortable with foreign food, but calling out Americans specifically is nonsensical there is tons of foreign food exposure and I suspect if you dug up a list of reason Americans don't travel "uncomfortable with foreign food" would be near the bottom of it.



It's culturally diverse if you want. There are still many Americans who are stuck on burgers and fries, meat and potatoes and fast foods and chain restaurants. Not me, but many Americans have not eaten more than two or three of the cuisines you mention - and have no desire to do so.



They are not adventurous here. And they brag about it.



Just because the restaurants exist, doesn't mean they have any desire to eat there.



I live in a smaller city, about 45 minutes away from Cleveland. It isn't rural. Out of the cuisines you listed, we don't have anything very exotic here - Mexican, Italian, Thia, Japanese, Greek, Lebanese, and Korean in my are available in my city.


The rest of the restaurants are fast food and chains - which are very popular here.



In Cleveland, everything imaginable is available. Add to that, Slovak, Ukrainian, Polish and Russian.



In my city, there is excellent Italian food, from "Mom and Pop" restaurants. You would be surprised by how many people prefer Olive Garden, Pizza Hut and other pizza chains.



A lack of interest in experiencing new, and unusual things, INCLUDING food, does impact people's desire to travel internationally.



Even within the US, there are people who are stuck of their regional cuisine. Generally these are not people from large cities, and they tend to be less educated.



In fact, I know people who are quite comfortable both in Ohio, in the South, and in the Northeast, where I am originally from, who have little interest in regional cuisine of their area.



It boggles my mind.



There are Californians and South-westerners who only eat Mexican food or Tex Mex. NY metro area folks who fixate on Chnese and Italian food, are obsessive about their bagels, and Pizza.



There are people from the South who can't live with out Barbecue, and so on.



Many people travel to experience the wines, beers, and foods of other countries, and celebrate the cultural differences.



If you can't live with out a cheeseburger and Bud or Coors are the only beers you drink, the allure of other cultures is lessened.
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Old 06-26-2019, 03:30 PM
 
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Some people are less adventurous than others in terms of different cultures. And some people are home bodies.
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Old 06-26-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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Some people don’t like to travel and some can’t afford it. We have been to Europe 4x’s, Thailand once and many Caribbean islands. Even when you look for deals it’s not cheap.
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Old 06-26-2019, 03:37 PM
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Location: Texas
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I don't understand all these multiple posts about why Americans don't travel overseas. So what if we don't? .
Travel snobs love to feel superior to others. Let 'em have it.
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