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Old 05-17-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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Would never willingly go to Saudi Arabia. Iíve seen things there that left me horrified that such people still exist in the 20th century (was there in 1990 before Desert Storm). Unless youíre Muslim making the pilgrimage to Mecca there is no good reason to go to Saudi Arabia.

Well they do have public executions. A tourist could not see that just anywhere. I suppose Saudi Arabia could promote that, you know, schedule far enough in advance so people can schedule their trip.
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Old 05-17-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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Do you think it is different there now?
They still segregate men from women, they still treat women as less than human, they still buy young Muslim girls from poor Islamic countries to be used as slaves (sex for male relatives, punching bag for the female relatives), many male businessmen still refuse to conduct business with women, and the smallest infraction could result in a tourist to be sent to prison or have his or her hand or head chopped off with a sword in a crowded stadium of cheering Saudis.
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Old 05-17-2019, 01:26 PM
 
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I've been there for the pilgrimage. I would not particularly want to ever go back. Very repressive, and as a woman there is no freedom and nothing to do but shop or sit with other women and gossip. I don't see it becoming a tourist place any time soon.
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Old 05-17-2019, 01:33 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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I don't see why not. Some globetrotters who saw most of the interesting things around the world already surely will find something to see there. Those people who don't travel, or only occasionally and focus only on tourist attractions still have many places to explore.
And there are "travelers" who seem to be happy to virtually "travel" on Google maps.
Whatís the point of traveling when we have google maps and virtual reality now?

Pretty horrific thoughts, because I like and want to travel in reality, to personally experience other countries and places. There is more than to just to see.
There is culture, food, and interaction with others to experience. There is walking/driving, touching, smelling, tasting, hearing... But obviously, some people don't care much about it.

I visited several countries in North Africa but not Saudi Arabia, yet. However, it's on my bucket list and it seems interesting enough. To me.
Saudi Arabia used to be one of the world’s most inaccessible countries, but the new visa system is going to open the doors to tourism. I am glad they do.
Just forget the politics and you can relate to people all over the world. That applies to Saudi Arabia, too.

https://sauditourism.sa/ja/Pages/default.aspx

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Old 05-17-2019, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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I'll go there (maybe) when they publicly acknowledge their assassination of Jamal Kashoggi.
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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Well they do have public executions. A tourist could not see that just anywhere. I suppose Saudi Arabia could promote that, you know, schedule far enough in advance so people can schedule their trip.
So many other things to do in Saudi Arabia:
  • Legally beat your wife
  • Hire a slave for the week
  • Attend a stoning
  • Check out the latest in Burqa fashions.

Imagine the tourist brochure. You can see a public execution for full price, or discounted show for just a limb amputation by sword.
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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I can't imagine ever going there - I'll not be a traitor to my own gender. They are a barbaric people - certainly their ruler(s) have proven themselves barbaric.
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:31 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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^^^ There are "barbaric" rituals around the world. Depends on your view and classification.
Stoning - currently, stoning is legal in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Yemen, United Arab Emirates, Sudan, Iran, and parts of Nigeria and is typically used as a punishment for adulterers. In Nigeria amputation for theft is perfectly acceptable; flogging and caning are common occurrences in Singapore. It didn't stop people from traveling there.
Witch hunts in New Guinea
Slavery - very common, in fact. Currently, there are between 10-30 million slaves worldwide - more than at any other single point in history. Yes, even during the eighteenth century—the zenith of the African slave trade—there were only six million slaves transported out of Africa. All across the globe, men, women, and children are abducted or tricked into capture and forced into debt slavery, the sex trade, and various other forms of exploitation.
In the US alone there are an estimated 100,000 children trapped in the sex trade; human trafficking worldwide has grown to a US$32 billion business, and is soon expected to surpass the drug trade. So, please, spare me with this BS.
Child-selling Hey, you can sell your child to get ...a (used) Miata...
http://www.childslavelabor.com/sell.html
Cannibalism - Again New Guinea ( and people travel there)
Human Sacrifice and tradition of Sati. Oh, that's in India and Uganda. People travel there...
Public Execution - Iran, China
Female Genital Mutilation It’s mostly done in parts of Africa and the Middle East
Blood Fiestas Involves whole towns coming out to inflict brutal, bloody pain on various animals - mostly cattle.
Spain has around 10- 20,000 blood fiestas per year, and they’re not the only ones; Portugal, Mexico, and Brazil all carry on the tradition.

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Would never willingly go to Saudi Arabia. I’ve seen things there that left me horrified that such people still exist in the 20th century (was there in 1990 before Desert Storm). Unless you’re Muslim making the pilgrimage to Mecca there is no good reason to go to Saudi Arabia.
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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I can't imagine ever going there - I'll not be a traitor to my own gender. They are a barbaric people - certainly their ruler(s) have proven themselves barbaric.
I am not doubting that it’s barbaric there, but if that is the case, why are people not just leaving? Or do they not even have the freedom to just leave the country?

Sorry for my lack of being informed
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Old 05-17-2019, 03:42 PM
 
Location: San Josť, CA
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^^^ There are "barbaric" rituals around the world. Depends on your view and classification.
This. ^^

This thread clearly needs a dose of cultural relativity. Thank you for attempting to provide it. Unfortunately, quite a few folks are stuck in their negative and very narrow viewfinder.
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