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Old 01-09-2023, 11:02 AM
 
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Old 01-09-2023, 12:54 PM
 
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Just google the smoking rules for the country you want to go to. Looks like you will be able to find places in France to smoke, but smoking is in decline most everywhere. Greece still has a lot of smokers.

https://www.smokefreeworld.org/healt...moking-france/
 
Old 01-09-2023, 12:59 PM
 
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I like the approach New Zealand is taking. It makes sense as an attempt to keep the young people from ever taking it up. I wonder how much of a black market it may create, tho.
 
Old 01-09-2023, 10:04 PM
 
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The only place that is comfortable to smoke is in my own home.

We know nobody cares if smokers feel uncomfortable. We've become detestable along with industrial smoke stacks, engine exhaust and radiation.
 
Old 01-10-2023, 05:40 AM
 
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I don't smoke, never have, but plenty of my immediate and extended family did/still does.

I travel a bunch, mainly trying to visit National Park Service units around the US (there's 424 currently and I've been to 371 of them!) and a few years ago I was in Kentucky visiting the northern section of Big South Fork National River and Recreation Area.

I stayed over night in Whitley City, KY, before heading east toward Middlesboro, KY and Cumberland Gap National Historical Park and wanted to get breakfast in Whitley City.

There was a place called Milton's Burger Hut there, that had decent reviews, so I decided to stop there for breakfast, and as I entered this small hole in the wall restaurant, I immediately smelled smoke. Sure enough there were some regulars there enjoying breakfast on the other side of this small restaurant, smoking cigarettes, cigars and pipes!

I stayed and enjoyed my breakfast, but thought to myself, if I went to dinner there and it was packed with people and half of them were smoking, I wouldn't be able to stay there and enjoy me meal.

So to answer your question, Kentucky....................Kentucky is the place to go if you enjoy smoking!
Yes but they are changing local laws in KY too - a lot of localities have indoor smoking bans.

Of course one of the reasons for the acceptance of smoking in KY is that tobacco has always been a cash crop in the state, still a significant revenue source. If and when recreational marijuana becomes legal in KY, that will probably be the impetus for a statewide tobacco smoking ban. With the majority of Kentuckians favoring a ban it is just a matter of time.

But I agree with you, for now KY is a good place to be if you enjoy smoking tobacco.
 
Old 01-10-2023, 06:11 AM
 
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Eight months since I stopped after anything from 1/2 to 2 packs a day for most of 45 years. Never had any physical withdrawal (including the other two times I stopped for several months) so it was a mental/habit thing with me. I always enjoyed it, and can honestly say I don't feel even a little bit better, but I never had any health issues to begin with because of it. I can say I'm saving a helluva lot of money.

Years ago when they started to eliminate indoor smoking there was an adjustment period... but for probably the last 20 years, I wasn't able to enjoy a smoke indoors. At home or anywhere else. I didn't want to be anywhere near the airport smoking room or a bar that allowed it. I expect the limiting of outdoor spaces will be the same. Eventually, it just won't 'feel right' to smoke there.

I have wondered, though, what is government(s) going to do about the huge loss of tax dollars when they finally manage to outlaw tobacco altogether? It has to be hundred of millions of dollars a year. I know they'll say they won't need it for all the sick smokers, but we all know they'll find something else to spend it on.
 
Old 01-10-2023, 09:29 AM
 
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Slap on a nicotine patch for a few hours and go transatlantic- Germany, Austria, Switzerland, etc.

Switzerland still has cigarette vending machines.
I remember flying to London a few times many years ago, I'd wear a patch during my flights. And of course I had to go through ATL because every concourse had smoking rooms. I believe those are gone now?

I quit smoking in 2006, not because I wanted to, but because I was in the hospital for a week for a ruptured appendix and darn they didn't let me have an ashtray in my room! I tried to take my IV pole and myself outside to have a cig and they prevented me from doing that. Even though I was on morphine, I still craved nicotine, crazy! It was a long road to quit, I wore patches for a couple of years. I do pity those that really want to quit, it was the most difficult thing I've ever done in my life.

I smoked 2 packs a day for many years before quitting. I see now that a pack of cigs is over $6 in 7/11. That would cost me at least $84 a week today, how do people afford it? Yes, I see the OP rolls his own, but most people don't.

BTW, I still get the odd craving now and then. It's wild that something I quit 16 years ago still has power over me.
 
Old 01-10-2023, 02:15 PM
 
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well, it depends how much you smoke. I only smoke occasionally and mostly in my backyard so it doesn't affect me
 
Old 01-10-2023, 02:47 PM
 
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Eight months since I stopped after anything from 1/2 to 2 packs a day for most of 45 years. Never had any physical withdrawal (including the other two times I stopped for several months) so it was a mental/habit thing with me. I always enjoyed it, and can honestly say I don't feel even a little bit better, but I never had any health issues to begin with because of it. I can say I'm saving a helluva lot of money.

Years ago when they started to eliminate indoor smoking there was an adjustment period... but for probably the last 20 years, I wasn't able to enjoy a smoke indoors. At home or anywhere else. I didn't want to be anywhere near the airport smoking room or a bar that allowed it. I expect the limiting of outdoor spaces will be the same. Eventually, it just won't 'feel right' to smoke there.

I have wondered, though, what is government(s) going to do about the huge loss of tax dollars when they finally manage to outlaw tobacco altogether? It has to be hundred of millions of dollars a year. I know they'll say they won't need it for all the sick smokers, but we all know they'll find something else to spend it on.

Like you said, government has to find a more reliable source of tax dollars.
Instead of tobacco taxes, Canada recoups tax dollars through pot sales since it was legalized country-wide in 2018. Plus in my province it's legal to operate casinos.


In any case, like one would expect, cigarette sales have gone black-market and smokers buy "Indian (N. American) cigarettes" , usually from a dealer, for $4 a 20 pack vs nearly $17 for a taxed one. BTW, the Indian cigarettes are private label and manufactured by major brands. They aren't hand-rolled on Indian reserves and sold in a Ziplock bag like some people think.
 
Old 01-10-2023, 02:56 PM
 
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A few places pop into my head: Moscow, Islamabad, Lagos, or an Indian reservation. Of course, I quit smoking in 1992 so I only have a passing interest in this topic.
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