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Old 07-19-2008, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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I have to say that I really miss the old-fashioned regular keys. Why can't we just go back to them? They've worked for thousands of years just fine.
Because they were cost prohibitive every time a guest accidently went home with one....rooms had to be rekeyed by the locksmith.

We get probably 5 calls a day from people that realize they walked off with the room keycard.....

Checking the room out automatically renders that card unusable....as does staying beyond the predetermined [and paid for] departure date.
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Old 07-19-2008, 11:11 AM
 
Location: HoCo, MD
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A bit paranoid..... however, if you guys really want to know how lame hotel information security can be... do a search for "Major Malfunction". That (I believe) is the "call sign" of a security expert that I saw speak awhile back. This person is an expert on infrared communications.

The issue here is that the technology old.. so many don't even bother securing it. So one of the things this guy did was hack the hotel's TV. You know how you can get your statistics via the hotel's TV? Well... guess how the cleaning crew updates a room's status? Yup, the remote. They use a code to get into the administrative portion of it.....

Not to get into any boring details (I'm sure you can google for his presentation)... but once in, he was able to look at the info for other peoples rooms, order movies, etc...

He even changed the background of the splashscreen... instead of "Hilton" or "Marriot" with a picture of the hotel.. he took a screen shot of an adult film and put it there.

You couldn't get credit card info... but you could see who stayed where, what they ordered, what calls they made etc...
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Old 07-21-2008, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Kailua, Oahu, HI and San Diego, CA
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I have to say that I really miss the old-fashioned regular keys. Why can't we just go back to them? They've worked for thousands of years just fine.
Yes, they worked fine when almost all of the people in the world were honest. Unfortunately, that's not now the case. Now you never know whether the person that stayed in the room a week ago, or a month ago, or ??? made a copy of the key, and will come back when your valuables (or worse - you) are in the room.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:31 PM
 
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Yes, they worked fine when almost all of the people in the world were honest. Unfortunately, that's not now the case. Now you never know whether the person that stayed in the room a week ago, or a month ago, or ??? made a copy of the key, and will come back when your valuables (or worse - you) are in the room.
I understand your point, but I think the main security issue would come from hotel employees. Now they know who entered each room and when. I would never leave valuables unsecured in a hotel room anyways. I would either put them in a safe (if they had one) or take them with me. If you are in the hotel room it would be hard for someone to break in since they usually have a separate interior lock which can only be engaged or disengaged from the inside.
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