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Old 09-12-2008, 11:14 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I hate when fat people sit next to me.. they usually smell..

I will assume you are kidding. Most heavy people do not smell.
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Old 09-12-2008, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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I'm sure that the other passengers felt that the delay was our fault, not the fault of the person sitting next to my daughter. But it wasn't us. It was some guy in a business suit, not willing to trade his 25th row middle seat for my 5th row aisle seat.
No, it WAS your fault. Why should a complete stranger have to give up his seat just to make you more comfortable? He's a paying passenger just as much as you are and he has no obligation to accommodate you and your screaming offspring. You chose to travel with children. Suck it up, and deal with it. It was your kids that were crying and shouting (according to your own words), so YOU were the problem, not the businessman.
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Old 09-12-2008, 11:51 AM
 
Location: NYC area
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No, it WAS your fault. Why should a complete stranger have to give up his seat just to make you more comfortable? He's a paying passenger just as much as you are and he has no obligation to accommodate you and your screaming offspring. You chose to travel with children. Suck it up, and deal with it. It was your kids that were crying and shouting (according to your own words), so YOU were the problem, not the businessman.
It was obvious that the only reason he did not want to change his seat was out of spite. Which was his right. Just like it was HER right to travel with screaming kids. Either EVERYONE has a right to act like an a-hole, or none do. Can't have it fifty-fifty. Suck it up, and deal with it.

Moreover, these discussions about screaming kids are such BS, anyway. Really, they are a proxy for something else, that nobody wants to mention by name. So let me cut the Gordian knot: Sushi, not having children is certainly your prerogative, but don't imagine you are doing anyone any favors here. All reproductive choices are inherently selfish. So if someone's reproductive choice is making you uncomfortable, you should spend a little more time dealing with your own issues instead of lecturing parents on how they should be punished for choosing to reproduce and how they should keep their children out of planes, streets, life, and the planet. Children are here to stay, so again, follow your own advice -- suck it up and deal with it.
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I will assume you are kidding. Most heavy people do not smell.
You must be kidding? Obese people sweat going up a level of stairs unless it's below 60 degrees. I had to sit next to the most obese guy I've even seen and it SUCKED. I was squished up against the window like a bug. If anything I think the airlines should pair fatties together so they can wallow over the empty seat in the middle. Oh and I like the charging them more for it too. If someone stinks I can rub vicks in my nose but I can't do anything about two ton Bob crushing me against the window or forcing me so far out in the walkway people trip on me.
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:42 PM
 
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^I think you are just a whiner.

If you sit next to a fat person then lean on them during the flight. They are like a pillow. Use that to your benefit.
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Old 09-18-2008, 05:06 PM
 
Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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I used to fly with my kids more when they were younger. They were good flyers, never cried on planes so we got lots of thank yous and such as flights landed.

What annoys me more than anything else are inconsiderate low lifes. The last time we flew, my youngest was 16 months old. We usually sit 2 and 2, but although we got the airport 2 hours early, we could only get 3 seats together... the 4rth was WAY in the back (my MIL bought the tickets online and screwed up the seat assignments). So, one of us was gonna get stuck and the kids... well, let's just say I was worried about the other passengers eardrums. The girl at the ticket counter understood (after I explained it to her). So, she issued the 4rth ticket in my daughter's name and told me to show it to the flight attendants and ask them for assistance. They told me there was nothing they could do, but that my dh or I would HAVE to sit separately. Oh no, I said, the separate seat was issued to my little girl. If they wouldn't/couldn't find someone(s) to trade seats and wouldn't bend the rules that far, then we would refuse to allow my child to sit in a seat not assigned to her.

Long story short, the flight was delayed 10 minutes because none of the other passengers would trade with us (we were offering the aisle seat to the passenger in the middle in her row). About 5 minutes into the delay, all the kids on the flight (there were about 5 others) plus mine started getting antsy, crying, shouting, etc. Then a nice older couple offered to sit separately during the flight, for everyone's peace of mind.

I'm sure that the other passengers felt that the delay was our fault, not the fault of the person sitting next to my daughter. But it wasn't us. It was some guy in a business suit, not willing to trade his 25th row middle seat for my 5th row aisle seat.

Even attractive people, who are not overweight, don't smell and don't have children can be a problem on a flight.
C'mon! I mean really.

Was it his fault you had children and needed special requirements? NO
Was it his fault your MIL screwed up the seating assignments? NO
Was it his fault no one else wanted to move either? NO
What if he didn't want the 5th row because he likes to sit behind the wings because he gets sick up front or he doesn't like the aisle because the cart gets in the way?

You could have been inconviencing him greatly compared to one parent being stuck with 2 children and one alone.

It was your fault.
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Old 09-18-2008, 05:09 PM
 
Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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You must be kidding? Obese people sweat going up a level of stairs unless it's below 60 degrees. I had to sit next to the most obese guy I've even seen and it SUCKED. I was squished up against the window like a bug. If anything I think the airlines should pair fatties together so they can wallow over the empty seat in the middle. Oh and I like the charging them more for it too. If someone stinks I can rub vicks in my nose but I can't do anything about two ton Bob crushing me against the window or forcing me so far out in the walkway people trip on me.
Big Bob...wassup?

That would suck. Last time I moved because some brat wanted the window seat...So I had the window and ended up with the aisle so he could look out. He ended up being annoying and it was a short flight so I couldn't have my Ipod on because flight attendants are anal about that rule of no electronics.
Never again...
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Old 09-19-2008, 07:24 PM
 
Location: NYC area
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C'mon! I mean really.

Was it his fault you had children and needed special requirements? NO
Was it his fault your MIL screwed up the seating assignments? NO
Was it his fault no one else wanted to move either? NO
What if he didn't want the 5th row because he likes to sit behind the wings because he gets sick up front or he doesn't like the aisle because the cart gets in the way?

You could have been inconviencing him greatly compared to one parent being stuck with 2 children and one alone.

It was your fault.
Illustrates my point about people's inferiority complexes perfectly: just because a couple had children, suddenly it's the mother's fault the airline screwed up the seating assignments, and no one wants to move, and the guy gets sick, and the cart is annoying. Let's see, is there anything else you forgot to pin on her? Like the fall of the Roman Empire, maybe?

There have always been and always will be children in the world. The fact that it annoys you is your own fault, not theirs. Since somehow eliminating children and parents is not an option, I suggest you approach the problem by working on your own issues.
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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I guess the point is, you are trapped for however many hours on a plane with whom ever bought a ticket for the flight. It is the luck of the draw. Fat people, smelly people, loudly crying people, sometimes even crazy people have to get places. It's less than a day out of your life being a little uncomfortable won't kill you.
I agree completely.

Plane rides are never THAT long. Most that SW flies are probably 2-3 hours at the most. Big deal.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:23 PM
 
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I will assume you are kidding. Most heavy people do not smell.
This has not been my experience. I'm sorry to say, but in my interfaces with them, more often than not, they do.
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