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Old 07-28-2008, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Coming in to work this morning I listened to a talk show on the radio and one of the hosts was talking about a flight his wife was on. She was sitting in a window seat and the passenger beside her was a 350 lb. man (who was also super tall) who could not sit without the armrest being lifted. This issue has been discussed periodically, especially since Southwest Airlines has said they will enforce their mandate to pay for two seats if the armrest can't be left down. The analogy the radio host used was that if you went to a cafeteria and bought a meal and the person in line behind you followed you to your table and helped himself to half of your meal with no offer of compensation. Much discussion of this issue has centered around the rights of the obese to not suffer discrimination (although they are not a legally protected class) but until I thought about the "food stealing" I hadn't really thought of the situation in that light. If I pay for my 18.75" of space and you steal some of my inches, I have a right to complain and be accomodated. Groups of overweight people protest that the airlines are to blame for not "super-sizing" their seats but given the cost of jet fuel these days, the airlines are all suffering for the cost of a flight and it is unreasonable to think they should/could increase the seat sizes and lose even more revenue. Who has the more important rights in this situation?
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:54 AM
 
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i think this is so sad. this country has no problem overcharging for produce, and for supersizing every meal, for filling our foods with so many preservatives, and making half of the population obese. food that is bad for you costs less than food that is good for you! and yes some people eat themselves into oblivion--usually due to emotional reasons.
have a heart. no one wants to be obese!!! and i can imagine how terrible that poor guy felt when he realized he had to sit in a seat and could not put the armrest down around him. and if he is an emotional eater, i am betting he got off that plane and made himself feel better with some more food.

i dont know the answer to whether or not obese people should be charged more. i just feel like we need to remember that these passengers are not just a passenger, not just a number, but a person with feelings.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Kailua, Oahu, HI and San Diego, CA
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i dont know the answer to whether or not obese people should be charged more. i just feel like we need to remember that these passengers are not just a passenger, not just a number, but a person with feelings.
So is the person who sits next to them.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:39 AM
 
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I'm a large woman and when I fly I sit next to my husband or one of my kids, now I can lower the armrest so that isn't an issue. Let's face it - flying requires you to be in a tight spot with people you'd rather not be that close to. The nasty 3 pack a day smoker who really doesn't get how bad he smells. The guy who doesn't use deodorant and really needs to, they may not take any more inches in the seat but they can make the whole back end of a plane stink to high heaven.
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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If they charge a extra seat for obese passengers, they need to charge double for babies on laps who cry the whole trip!
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:30 PM
 
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If they charge a extra seat for obese passengers, they need to charge double for babies on laps who cry the whole trip!
as if the parents want the children to cry the whole trip! come on now!
if people are such a nuisence, then its time to get into your car and drive all alone to your destinations.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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as if the parents want the children to cry the whole trip! come on now!
if people are such a nuisence, then its time to get into your car and drive all alone to your destinations.
SOOO true!
I have toddler twins. It's so funny the way people look at us when they are acting up in public. Just yesterday I was in a store and the kids were not screaming, but being a little loud. This lady shot me a very nasty look. I looked at my friend and said loud enough for the woman to hear "I love it when people give me a nasty look when my kids are acting up. Do they think I like my kids being loud? And this is a public place and if they want peace and quiet when they shop they should go to someplace where they book appointments!" The lady kindly walked away.
I have yet to take mine on a plane...I myself can't deal with the crying they can do at times so I really don't want to experience that on a plane. BUT I will take them one day and I just pray the people on the plane are sympathetic if they act up. I do my best to keep them at bay, but sometimes kids will just be kids!
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:03 PM
 
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I guess the point is, you are trapped for however many hours on a plane with whom ever bought a ticket for the flight. It is the luck of the draw. Fat people, smelly people, loudly crying people, sometimes even crazy people have to get places. It's less than a day out of your life being a little uncomfortable won't kill you.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:37 PM
 
Location: The Big D
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Ever had to sit by a 13yo that won't give up the armrest so that her IPod can sit on it. URGH!!!! If we had not been up in the air I would have escorted my own kid off of the plane. LOL!!!

My kids never made much of a fuss while flying. I have always bought them there own seat and made them sit in it and when younger in their car seats strapped in. Just teaching them early on that it is best and SAFE to be strapped in at all times as you never know what can happen. They have since experienced turbulance and now know mom was wise by teaching them this.

Now that they are older however............... URGH!!! They don't like sitting by each other. We usually do two and two with one kid and one parent on a row. This last trip we had 4 seats straight across w/ 3 on one side and the aisle seat across the aisle. This way if the younger one falls asleep she doesn't accidently fall over onto someone like she has before. She has cried on planes in the last year when we are landing because of her ear hurting. That has NOT been fun at all for me and I've tried to comfort her as much as possible when it is happening and tried to get her to keep the noise down. We are not going to cancel a family trip or vacation just because of that at all. So what she cried for a few minutes the entire time anyone that is upset by it can get over it. She was not SCREAMING or anything and anyone not sitting right by us probably never even heard a thing.

I've had to sit by businessmen that thought they owned the entire row and took up BOTH armrests, the legroom in front of MY SEAT, the aisle w/ their feet sticking out in it, newspapers opend so wide I could read it as it was in front of me, etc. There are rude people of ALL sizes, shapes, etc. They don't all have to be obese to take up the space beside them that someone else is sitting in.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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Fat people need love, too.
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