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Old 02-25-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Never mind I found more on this guy, interesting


http://www.acandyros...ephen-miles.htm
I like how on UM, you said you had a voice tell you MS. You leave that out here... That's the type of logic we have here. Docy refutes facts, but investigates what the voices () tell him to...

Family Innocent in Jonbenet Ramsey Murder - True Crime - Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums - Page 43

 
Old 02-25-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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Was she?

a) we don't know that the scream was actually JonBenet's

b) Melody Stanton later stated that she may have imagined the scream (that it may have been part of a dream)
Some coincidence if she "imagined" the scream. Not impossible, but too coincidental to me.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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This is exactly what I believe. I also don't see any strange things John said. They were falsely accused and faced prison--how scary is that. Of course he would want to keep talking about it to set the record straight.

They were somehow "in" on whatever it was. Details are hidden. Whether an intruder did it and it was someone who they were "in" with whom they had to protect, or whether they let the person in themselves, it must have been a porno ring and JonBenet was getting "visited." It was child abuse at the very least.
I never considered a porno ring ever. It seemed so ludicrous to me, but not sure how I think about it now. I guess it would be possible and would explain how the parents would be forced to cover up the crime--they would have been outed. I don't see the mother involved though so not sure how that scenario would have worked.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 02:50 PM
 
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I never considered a porno ring ever. It seemed so ludicrous to me, but not sure how I think about it now. I guess it would be possible and would explain how the parents would be forced to cover up the crime--they would have been outed. I don't see the mother involved though so not sure how that scenario would have worked.

Mommy dearest sexualised Jonbenet.

All those pageants and costumes designed to make her look like a pint sized showgirl.

Mommy dearest also, I believe, "lent" JB to John as an apology for giving up her own wifely duties.

I think the death occurred on Christmas Eve because it was the Big Night - Daddy was going to go all the way as his personal Christmas treat.

I think Jonbenet acted up, kicked or something, and the basement was where her punishment took place.

She was petrified of the basement, allegedly, and I think that's because she was routinely placed there in the dark to make her more amenable.

This time it didn't work, Mommy got mad, whacked her with the torch, and the rest is history.

Daddy had to join the cover up otherwise he would be exposed as the child molester he is.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Mommy dearest sexualised Jonbenet.

All those pageants and costumes designed to make her look like a pint sized showgirl.

Mommy dearest also, I believe, "lent" JB to John as an apology for giving up her own wifely duties.

I think the death occurred on Christmas Eve because it was the Big Night - Daddy was going to go all the way as his personal Christmas treat.

I think Jonbenet acted up, kicked or something, and the basement was where her punishment took place.

She was petrified of the basement, allegedly, and I think that's because she was routinely placed there in the dark to make her more amenable.

This time it didn't work, Mommy got mad, whacked her with the torch, and the rest is history.

Daddy had to join the cover up otherwise he would be exposed as the child molester he is.


I have a hard time believing a stranger got her willingly down into the basement. I have an harder time believing someone random person murderer and instead of taking the body with them, took it in the basement. I think the murderer was someone she knew or someone the parents told to go with. I wouldn't even be surprised if John or Patsy actually did it. It's not my go to theory, but it possible.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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I like how on UM, you said you had a voice tell you MS. You leave that out here... That's the type of logic we have here. Docy refutes facts, but investigates what the voices () tell him to...

Family Innocent in Jonbenet Ramsey Murder - True Crime - Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums - Page 43
There are the other side of things not that I really believe it. Interesting though this guy was jailed for selling drugs from Mexico and may have known or been apart of the perps that enter the Ramsey`s house and planned for the demanded money.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 02:47 AM
 
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The letter

You will withdraw $118,000.00 from your account. $100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20 bills. Make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the bank. When you get home you will put the money in a brown paper bag. I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a [sic] earlier( delivery) pick-up of your daughter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_...%C3%A9t_Ramsey


They wanted John to come back to the home with the money, and not a delivery( the word delivery was scratch out and replaced with pick up) of their daughter, and hence (from this place) a earlier pick up of your daughter. The perps were there.

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Old 02-26-2014, 06:37 AM
 
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The letter

You will withdraw $118,000.00 from your account. $100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20 bills. Make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the bank. When you get home you will put the money in a brown paper bag. I will call you between 8 and 10 am tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence a [sic] earlier( delivery) pick-up of your daughter.

Murder of JonBenét Ramsey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


They wanted John to come back to the home with the money, and not a delivery( the word delivery was scratch out and replaced with pick up) of their daughter, and hence (from this place) a earlier pick up of your daughter. The perps were there.
Even if they were in the house the whole time undetected (entering, during, and leaving) by the Ramseys and their nearest neighbors, why didn't they take the body with them? If their goal was soley money? They would have gotten money for the corpse.
 
Old 02-26-2014, 10:27 AM
 
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With this thread being close to 2000 posts I bet most people do not take the time to read all the posts. I know that I have skipped over many myself.

This is not a taboo subject. It just needs a fresh start.


ETA: If you want to respond to a post on the now closed thread, just hit the QUOTE button and copy the formatted text then go to the new thread and paste!

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