Casey AnthonyTrial (murder, criminal, penalty, friend)

[TakeAhike]

Originally Posted by kahskye

Jose Baez stated in his opening remarks that Caylee died due to a tragic accident - a drowning in the family pool. Baez goes on to give a touching story but is it rooted in reality?

I don't think so and I'll tell you why

This is what Baez stated in his opening remarks;

"Early morning hours the exact time is not known...it could have been early afternoon...early morning...actually it was the early morning hours. George Anthony approached Casey and started yelling at her - where's Caylee, where's Caylee? Baez just lost the trial in the 1.40 mins it took him to tell that story.

Someone pointed out that the time frame was wrong after the first day. On the Fox News segment last night--I believe it was Mark Furman that stated GA left for work at 2:30 PM and returned home around 9:30 PM.

Casey called her parents all day--Cindy wouldn't answer her cell phone because they had a fight the previous day and George was working---I suppose he didn't answer either. I stopped listening attentively after that.

This mish mash makes no sense. There's a lot about the meter reader's involvement that is strange---and could cause the jurors to have 'doubt'.

Another expert said the prosecution's determination to use the can of air from Casey's trunk might be a risky move. Some case/statute was cited.

A trainwreck of a trial.

I want to know exactly how much has been spent since this case began. Life in prison and Casey works 24/7 to repay every cent.

[dreamofmonterey]

Originally Posted by 7165red

I am happy to read that Jose Biaz has fooled any of the people on this forum. I watched Cindy Anthony yesterday and I felt very sorry for her. In the beginning I found her very combative but yesterday I could feel her hurt. I think she was a good grandmother and it's too bad she wasn't able to get custody of Kaylee. I feel for George Anthony, the poor man making him take the blame. There is no way I can believe that.

Yes, I feel for Cindy. She is angry, no doubt, bcs her daughter did what she did...she cant come out and say that, but you could see how much she was upset by seeing the court pics of Caylee, it was genuine.

The only time Casey got teary eyed was when Baez was talking about the fake molestation charges, she knows they were throwing her father to the wolves.

Kronk was just a guy who found the remains- btw what in the heck is the story with that dumpster at Amscot??- the tow guy clearly testified remains were left in that car(Caseys) for awhile, plus she parked it right next to the gas station dumpster....How much more evidence does a person need.

DNA /forensic experts from Oak Ridge Labs can pin down the trunk evidence pretty well.

[kahncss]

Originally Posted by 7165red

I am happy to read that Jose Biaz has fooled any of the people on this forum. I watched Cindy Anthony yesterday and I felt very sorry for her. In the beginning I found her very combative but yesterday I could feel her hurt. I think she was a good grandmother and it's too bad she wasn't able to get custody of Kaylee. I feel for George Anthony, the poor man making him take the blame. There is no way I can believe that.

I do feel for both of them, but they had no right to destroy evidence by cleaning out the car and washing Casey's clothes. Maybe they were in denial, one reason George didn't call 911 w/ Birk (tow truck guy) when they smelled what they knew to be the odor of decomposition. I wish Cindy and George hadn't tampered w/ evidence. No one wants to think their daughter is capable of such a crime.

[dreamofmonterey]

I saw that when George testified about the car- imo when he picked it up from tow lot, he was prolly just functioning on auto-pilot /denial. Many times apparently, he had to pick up Caseys car as she ran out of gas, just another part of her irresponsible attitude.

To face it at that point would proly have overwhelmed him...like it did 6 months later when he wen tto the hosptpital voluntarily- he said something like .."I cant put up with the charade any longer"...

[TakeAhike]

Originally Posted by dreamofmonterey

I saw that when George testified about the car- imo when he picked it up from tow lot, he was prolly just functioning on auto-pilot /denial. Many times apparently, he had to pick up Caseys car as she ran out of gas, just another part of her irresponsible attitude.

To face it at that point would proly have overwhelmed him...like it did 6 months later when he wen tto the hosptpital voluntarily- he said something like .."I cant put up with the charade any longer"...

It sounds like they lived an 'American Beauty' style of life.

Were there extraordinary problems? Certainly by the time she dropped out of school--?16/17, it would seem likely.

Caylee's disappearance had to be the worst nightmare come true. People go numb.

My friend's son who is diagnosed with paranoid psychosis and I don't know what else certainly drove her past the breaking point many times. He had been depressed/withdrawn and was bullied at school and absolutely snapped. Hospitalized again and again and again. You could talk to him and he would be the sweet boy that everyone knew as a child and then he was gone. At times catatonic and violent at other times. My friend's guilt was incredible.

She was terrified every time there was a knock at the door or the phone rang.

When this is over I would certainly want to move away. At some point you accept what cannot be changed but the scars go deep.

[mag32gie]

I think GA was so thankful to see that his loved ones were not in the trunk that he tried to convince himself that everything was still ok in his world. If he would have gone to the police at that time, it would have brought the reality of the smell back and he did not want to think about that. He wanted to believe it was just garbage so he could believe Caylee and Casey were safe.

[cassy1]

But was it not at that time that Cindy A called the police about the smell in the car?

[TakeAhike]

Originally Posted by mag32gie

I think GA was so thankful to see that his loved ones were not in the trunk that he tried to convince himself that everything was still ok in his world. If he would have gone to the police at that time, it would have brought the reality of the smell back and he did not want to think about that. He wanted to believe it was just garbage so he could believe Caylee and Casey were safe.

i really think that he 'knew'--2+2=4, for a long time and the horror was paralyzing

if you live with a person 'with issues' for any length of time--life becomes one crisis after another. There is a permanent feeling that something terrible, beyond your control will one day happen. It did.
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What is the purpose of shows like 'Nancy Grace' and CNN/HLN --the media in general--if not to raise awareness. 'Violence'--particularly against women and children--it is bad, it must stop. If I am not completely Insane--that is what Miss Nancy says each and every day.

'How can it be stopped?'

I can only assume by those who are aware and can 'do something' to prevent it.


We just finished honoring Oprah--who mentored Dr. Phil and I assume Dr. Drew is 'doing his part'. The great legacy of Change. Once we were Blind, but now WE SEE. ok --I've got it, it is beside the point that I Got It--before the media decided I needed its help to understand.

Each and every societal issue has been presented and discussed and analyzed to the point that I can't turn on the TV without being assaulted with this information.

If there is something that is tearing your family apart and nothing you do seems to help---then leave no stone unturned until you find appropriate help. Caylee Anthony might be alive today had this been done. And their daughter, also a human being might not be facing the Death Penalty.

I don't think I have the intestinal fortitude for this trial. No, George and Cindy didn't kill Caylee--but they certainly needed to have done something different with their own child. Maybe an expert would have said--'There is nothing that can be done for Casey'--and insitutionalized her for the rest of her life. Highly unlikely--money being a huge factor is obtaining healthcare of any kind.

I can't listen to Nancy bleat on about 'Stopping Violence Against Women and Children', I know that.
As far as I am concerned Caylee Anthony is now a marketing tool to sell the Nancy Grace show.

Disgusting.

[mag32gie]

Originally Posted by cassy1

But was it not at that time that Cindy A called the police about the smell in the car?

Originally Cindy called to report that Casey had stolen the car and stolen money. I can't remember everything but Cindy didn't get scared until Casey confessed later in the day that she had not seen Caylee for 31 days. I am sure the smell became a huge factor at that time but rather than believe it was from Caylee, they choose to believe it was from the pizza box and kept believing Casey's lies until 6 weeks ago.
Cindy said she quit looking for Zanny 6 weeks ago, that is how much she believed her daughter.

[mag32gie]

Originally Posted by TakeAhike

i really think that he 'knew'--2+2=4, for a long time and the horror was paralyzing

if you live with a person 'with issues' for any length of time--life becomes one crisis after another. There is a permanent feeling that something terrible, beyond your control will one day happen. It did.

I agree but remember at the same time he was listening to Cindy and probably hoping he was wrong, even though deep down he knew he wasn't.
Cindy is so strong willed and can control George but then when she found out that Casey "said" Caylee drowned in the pool, Cindy broke.
All we have ever heard from Cindy was "Casey SAID" so did Casey control George too?
Very sad situation, I will follow until the end but never get involved in another one.