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Old 07-15-2011, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Speculation meaning=
  1. <LI type=a>Contemplation or consideration of a subject; meditation. <LI type=a>A conclusion, opinion, or theory reached by conjecture.
  2. Reasoning based on inconclusive evidence; conjecture or supposition.
Holy hell. You're here running down the jurors and you don't even know what speculation is? Where's my facepalm picture when I need it?

I want you to focus on four words here. Contemplation, consideration, reasoning, supposition. Because Casey Anthony had first person knowledge of the drowning, the defense's admission (also focus on that word; admission) is NOT speculation. They did not say she COULD have drowned. They say she DID drown.

 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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Nope.
Then drowning must be speculation too.

How about sexual abuse by a father and brother, not proven. That would be speculation ... right?

What about Roy Kronk taking the remains with him in August and then returning them to Suburban Dr ... again more speculation.

Baez kept throwing mud at the actual facts presented ... call Cindy back and allow her to lie ... call Lee up and let him call his mother a liar.

But ... Baez was successful and a killer walks tomorrow. The defense team celebrated their victory and Caylee Marie Anthony is still dead and she didn't kill herself.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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CNN.com - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News

Casey Anthony's release draws near - CNN.com

A woman who looked like Casey Anthony was run off the road by another driver. Cheney Mason states he thinks Casey ought to move to Montana?! Casey gets out of jail this weekend, and apparently Hugh Hefner does not want her skanky A$$...interesting...too low for Hugh? He is not interested in her...Oh, and they are working on appealing the "Lying to police" charges...why not?!
Yeah, she's appealing her 4 misdemeanor charges of lying to law enforcement. What audacity. Un.be.lievable. And since she's insolvent, the People have to pay for her appeal.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:12 PM
 
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They did not say she COULD have drowned. They say she DID drown.
Yet I asked you if drowning was the cause of death and you replied NOPE.

You can't have it both ways. It's either the "Cause of Death" or it's "Speculation."
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:13 PM
 
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Wanna bet? I can show you the exact verbiage that is given to jurors in criminal cases explaining what reasonable doubt is.

Not beyond a reasonable doubt.
There should have been no doubt because the evidence when put together proved she did it. The reasonable doubt that you speak of involves a pool accident and a finger pointing at a grieving grandfather.
A pool accident that she sat in jail for 3 years with the death penalty hanging over her head without confessing? After this "tragic accident" she was at blockbuster in a matter of hours?
A grieving grandfather that drove all over Florida with a sign on his car?
Their reasonable doubt was that George didn't call the police after smelling the car but if they would have paid attention, George knew everything she was telling Cindy about and his wife talked to her everyday. The car was there for a long time. By the time they got to the car, they knew they had talked to her many times while the car had been sitting there.

One thing there was not and that is reasonable doubt.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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At the end of the article it says:

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ABCNews.com published a story earlier today stating that sources said George Anthony did not want Casey Anthony to return to the family home when she is released from jail. George Anthony's lawyer Mark Lippman has denied that George Anthony made that statement. "George has not expressed his feelings one way or the other. At such a time when he is ready, he will express what he wants to say," Lippman said.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:21 PM
 
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Then drowning must be speculation too.
No. Casey had first hand knowledge of this.

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How about sexual abuse by a father and brother, not proven. That would be speculation ... right?
Nope. See above.

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What about Roy Kronk taking the remains with him in August and then returning them to Suburban Dr ... again more speculation.
This one you could chock up to speculation.

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Baez kept throwing mud at the actual facts presented ... call Cindy back and allow her to lie ... call Lee up and let him call his mother a liar.
That's part of a defense attorney's job.

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But ... Baez was successful and a killer walks tomorrow. The defense team celebrated their victory and Caylee Marie Anthony is still dead and she didn't kill herself.
Yep. It's over and done with.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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Yet I asked you if drowning was the cause of death and you replied NOPE.

You can't have it both ways. It's either the "Cause of Death" or it's "Speculation."
I misread your question. I thought you said "It's not speculation".

My mistake.

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There should have been no doubt because the evidence when put together proved she did it.
No, it didn't. Many legal experts agree on this.

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The reasonable doubt that you speak of involves a pool accident and a finger pointing at a grieving grandfather.
And that is, by definition, reasonable doubt. It's a plausible explanation that Casey drowned in the pool. It's also plausible that George concealed or help to conceal the death.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:27 PM
 
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Last night on TV there was an interview of a guy who married a woman who is an imprisoned convicted murderess. He got involved with her after she was put in prison. The topic was something like "jail house groupies" or something to that effect. Anyway, this man is positive his wife is innocent - she 'told him the truth about that night'. He also thought about writing to Casey Anthony, but then realized she had so much support that she wouldn't need to hear from him.

After his interview segment, Bethany Marshall (psychoanalyst) came on and talked about jailhouse groupie syndrome. She speculated that if this woman ever got out (unlikely since she got life without parole), she would dump him like a hot potato. Yes, speculation, but based on case histories.

The polls show that men are more supportive of Casey Anthony.

...just sayin'
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:53 PM
 
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Apparently she has. I'm sure every human being in the system who has anything to do with validating her release date, including Judge Perry, has been over all the details of her record with a fine-toothed comb. This case is so high profile, they don't want to make any mistakes. And if Judge Perry could have possibly kept her in jail or under supervision one minute longer he would have. This is political. The loss for the state is bad news for the State Attorney at election time. If Judge Perry had shown one tiny bit of leniency toward Anthony, it would be bad for him at election time as well.
AH ! Election Time.......This is why we have the largest prison poulation, highest conviction rate, longest sentences,etc,etc The Elections ! , what a great system i think we need to appoint judges,Sheriffs, etc.
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