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Old 07-18-2011, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Bosco55David View Post
Pretty much. One of my friends posted this on Facebook just hours after the verdict.

"They (the DA's office) went for the game winning home run instead of the game tying RBI double, and struck out."



You do realize that the jury's instructions state that almost verbatim? If Baez was giving the jury instructions that conflicted with the official instructions from the court, Judge Perry would have nipped that in the bud immediately.

Baez told the jury that they had to prove every aspect of the case including cause of death and if they didn't know any aspect of what happened they would have to give a not guilty verdict. Baez didn't allow any room to connect the dots on the true evidence.

Check out the closing arguments on youtube. Baez said the jury would have to know everything including how, what, where , and when and they believed it. The two jurors even said word for word what Baez said to them.. and they sound so stupid because they fell for it.

 
Old 07-18-2011, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Baez told the jury that they had to prove every aspect of the case including cause of death and if they didn't know any aspect of what happened they would have to give a not guilty verdict. Baez didn't allow any room to connect the dots on the true evidence.

Check out the closing arguments on youtube. Baez said the jury would have to know everything including how, what, where , and when and they believed it. The two jurors even said word for word what Baez said to them.. and they sound so stupid because they fell for it.
None of that conflicts with the instructions given to the jury by the court.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Unhappy O.J. verdict a second time, narcissist Casey free, no justice4 Caylee

Ive been off here awhile but know my friends agree with this.

Caylee has been done a disservice...this is truly a sad day in the courts, and disgusting casey will prolly write a book, which will be all lies anyway. She reportedly refused to do an interview as they were requiring a lie detector test----lol doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure her out
 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Caylee was done no disservice. She had no standing in the case because, alas, she's gone. Victims only get justice in civil court. Criminal courts are for trying criminal cases and the prosecution couldn't meet their burden in this one. Guilty people go free in our system and that's a sad fact. But I'd still take our system of criminal justice over that of any other nation.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Glad you never lost a family member to violent crime, some have, and change needs to be legislated.

cheers
 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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None of that conflicts with the instructions given to the jury by the court.
They disregarded the evidence and Baez told the jurors how to think because they were instructed to use conjecture by baez and disregarded the circumstancial evidence because baez told the jurors it wasn't enough but as everyone who has common sense knows it was plenty to convict on all three not guilty counts.
I don't know how anyone could throw away their daughter like garbage.

I listened to Baez and he told the jury they would have to know every single action in the case. Plus the jury couldn't think logically. The foreman spoke with the words Baez spoke which they based their goofball reasoning as why they came to the verdict of not guilty.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Bosco55David View Post
Pretty much. One of my friends posted this on Facebook just hours after the verdict.

"They (the DA's office) went for the game winning home run instead of the game tying RBI double, and struck out."



You do realize that the jury's instructions state that almost verbatim? If Baez was giving the jury instructions that conflicted with the official instructions from the court, Judge Perry would have nipped that in the bud immediately.
The jury instructions state nothing of the kind.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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They disregarded the evidence and Baez told the jurors how to think because they were instructed to use conjecture by baez and disregarded the circumstancial evidence because baez told the jurors it wasn't enough
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I listened to Baez and he told the jury they would have to know every single action in the case. Plus the jury couldn't think logically. The foreman spoke with the words Baez spoke which they based their goofball reasoning as why they came to the verdict of not guilty.
So what? That's well within his bounds as the defense attorney and nothing he said contradicts the official juror instructions. Seriously, are you even trying to make a point anymore?

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but as everyone who has common sense knows it was plenty to convict on all three not guilty counts.
The 12 jurors (13 with the alternate) all came to a unanimous decision that it wasn't and more than a few legal experts have come out and agreed that the verdict was proper given the lack of evidence.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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The jury instructions state nothing of the kind.
Wanna bet?
 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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First off, why couldn't you have just posted this in the existing thread? Not trying to be a jerk here, but there was nothing special about this post that required it's on thread.

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Glad you never lost a family member to violent crime, some have
And once again, I'm reminded of the quote by the late Supreme Court Justice, Oliver Wendell Holmes.

"This is a court of law, young man, not a court of justice."

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and change needs to be legislated.
What change did you have in mind?
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