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Old 07-06-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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Casey flipped the bird in court two different times. Bartlett did it and got 6 days in jail and fined.





The attorneys even thinks it's funny:


 
Old 07-06-2011, 09:03 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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Death of Caylee Anthony - Wikipedia
 
Old 07-06-2011, 09:39 PM
 
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Another job offer for Casey:

Casey Anthony Gets Porn Offer
 
Old 07-06-2011, 10:07 PM
 
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Well, the trial may be over and the verdict in, but fortunatly for Nancy Grace there will be ample opportunity for her to declare tot mom tot mon tot mom tot mom tot mom.

The "Nancy Grace Tot Mom" show?
 
Old 07-06-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Funny how? View Post
Well, the trial may be over and the verdict in, but fortunatly for Nancy Grace there will be ample opportunity for her to declare tot mom tot mon tot mom tot mom tot mom.

The "Nancy Grace Tot Mom" show?
I was reading today that HLN, previous to this case, was slumping in ratings. Since the trial coverage it has the highest ratings it has gotten in a few years. Even though we may all get annoyed by Nancy Grace, she saved HLN, at least for the moment.
 
Old 07-06-2011, 11:39 PM
 
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They might be sleeping well if they don't have to be concerned about getting death threats or being physically harmed if the media finds out who they are.

Contrary to popular belief, there is not always a dangerous, evil person responsible every time a person dies or is killed. Accidents do happen. You cannot possibly know as a matter of fact that Casey Anthony intentionally killed her daughter. And my bet is that you have been mistaken in some of your beliefs throughout your life, and that you have been wrong in some of your predictions throughout your life.
I would bet that there is always an evil person responsible EVERY time there is a murder.

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Word for word, couldn't agree more.

It's nice to wave the sparklers and flags on Independence Day and crow about how great our country is. But when we get right down to it, many Americans do not really respect (or understand) our justice system.

The lynch mob mentality I'm observing from Facebook to City Data to any number of news outlets comments sections are disturbing.
C'mon. Regardless of your belief, this was a highly publicized, 3 year, tragic case. What do you expect? Cripe, people react just as bad when their sports team loses.

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Casey did not testify but the defense attorneys speaking for her said Caylee's death was an accident and George Anthony was the first to discover her. George and Cindy denied that, but they also were caught lying on the stand more than once. I did not know about these people prior to the trial, but they did seem untruthful and it was difficult to know what parts of thier testimony were honest.



Well according to the testimony at trial, Casey never believed her child was missing. In fact, she knew Caylee was dead. There was also some testimony that she managed the girls at these clubs and had some role in organizing them - I don't know if this was a regular job but some described it as work-like.
Pretty sure it was said that she "lied" (nooo, not sweet Casey) and she told her friends that she was working there, but when they spoke to the club, they said she was a volunteer promo girl.

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Uh, "bad mom"? A bad mom feeds her kids cookies for breakfast and let's them watch tv all day. Driving around with your child's corpse in the trunk of your car makes you evil.


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I can't help it, especially when dealing with the whiny people throwing temper tantrums because the jury had the audacity to ignore their emotional trauma.

Last time I checked, being "evil" wasn't a valid criminal charge in this country.
Too bad for that.

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Given the current economy, I am glad that no more tax dollars will be used for years of appeals if she got the death penalty, or for paying for decades of care for her in prison.

Now she will be out on her own, and will need to find her own sources of support. That may be welfare, but even with welfare, there are a lot more restrictions on it than there used to be and most states require able bodied adults to look for work in order to keep receiving it.

She will either need to find people to take care of her, or eventually find some means to support herself.

I think its really the best outcome.

Had Cayley merely been in an accidental drowning, then shame on anyone who knew that and let this event turn into the circus its become. They deserve any problems they are facing now.

If Casey actually killed her, then she also deserves any problems she will now face once she is out on the streets.

Sadly for her, she happened to make some bad choices that caused a media feeding frenzy to descend onto her family.
What? Simple fix. She will go on to have more children and then get on welfare. Unless, of course, she should write a book or such.

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The jury was given an instruction on reasonable doubt by the Court. They most likely had these written jury instructions in the deliberation room with them.

Check out page 16 of 26 for the specific jury charge on reasonable doubt:

Judge Perry Jury Instructions 26 Pages (http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2011-07/177483200-04090136.pdf - broken link)
Just because they had these instructions, does not mean they understood them clearly.

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I don't KNOW specifically what happened, and neither do you.

I will say that as horrible as it is that this little girl's body was disposed of in those bags in the woods, that is not a death penalty offense. And we DO NOT KNOW as a matter of fact who put her body there.

Obviously you are a person that has a lot of difficulty "not knowing" about something. I'm not. Life is full of things we just don't know as a matter of fact. We may make assumptions, but there is not enough evidence that we can be certain. Even George and Cindy acknowledged in their public statement that they (we) may never know what actually happened to Caylee
Most mothers do not see things this way. This is why there is so much emotion around this case. 31 days? You don't report it? I do not know ONE mother that "loves" like that.

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I'll make you a deal. You stop blaming the justice system and calling the jury "morons" because they didn't go against their legal duty to settle your emotional vendetta, and I'll stop reminding you why your side lost.

Deal?
There is only one loser in this. Always was, no matter what the outcome. It wasn't "your" side or my side.

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There is a lot of talk about where Casey will go when she is released from jail since her parents don't want to take her in and all of her friends have turned their backs on her. Since you have so much confidence in her innocence and faith in her future, maybe you should let her stay with you? Do you have any young kids? She could babysit them for you in exchange for free rent?
Did I miss the answer on this?

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Caylee is dead. She doesn't "need" justice. It's the human beings left behind who seem to need the "justice" you are talking about.
This is compassionate people wanting justice for the death of an innocent child. Any normal person with feelings should be able to understand this. There was no accountability here.

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That's the strange thing. George testified twice that it smelled like death because he was an ex-cop and familiar with the smell. Yet he didn't call the police or report it. It wasn't until Cindy found out the smell could have been from death that she called and reported it - I suppose George told her. A number of defense witness who smelled it also said that it was indistinguishable from a garbage-like smell.

Not to mention that the tow truck guy actually pulled out a bag of maggot infested trash - which had to at least contribute to the smell.
I truly find it hard to believe that pizza leftovers would smell as bad as a decomposing body. Maybe a side of beef, but...


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The first amendment give jurors a right to free speech (including publishers that print books) and freedom of contract (Article I, section 10) gives them a right to profit off of that speech. There is a fundamental right.

I would actually be interested in what they have to say.
I, personally don't care what the jurors have to say, but I can see how a law student would. Be nice to know, especially a defense atty, what kind of people to choose to "win".
 
Old 07-07-2011, 02:31 AM
 
Location: FL
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Bottom line is, early on in the trial (and I watched every minute of it) I had to ask myself , which side would I buy a used car from and the answer was clear.....Baez. He reminds me of an old home improvement salesman, the customers would say, we had cheaper bids, we know we paid to much but we liked the guy.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 03:09 AM
 
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The first amendment give jurors a right to free speech (including publishers that print books) and freedom of contract (Article I, section 10) gives them a right to profit off of that speech. There is a fundamental right.

I would actually be interested in what they have to say.
I tried to let this go - but its incorrect. Section 10 gives states the right to enter into contracts and treaties, not individual right to contract. The constitution doesnt even give an express right to privacy.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 05:34 AM
 
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I don't KNOW specifically what happened, and neither do you.

I will say that as horrible as it is that this little girl's body was disposed of in those bags in the woods, that is not a death penalty offense. And we DO NOT KNOW as a matter of fact who put her body there.

Obviously you are a person that has a lot of difficulty "not knowing" about something. I'm not. Life is full of things we just don't know as a matter of fact. We may make assumptions, but there is not enough evidence that we can be certain. Even George and Cindy acknowledged in their public statement that they (we) may never know what actually happened to Caylee
Obviously you are a person who "always has to be right" and there are many things that I don't care to know but a baby dumped on the side of the road with duct tape in the area where her mouth and nose USE TO BE is not one of them.
Now get in the last word because that is VERY important to those people who "always have to be right".
 
Old 07-07-2011, 06:53 AM
 
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I tried to let this go - but its incorrect. Section 10 gives states the right to enter into contracts and treaties, not individual right to contract. The constitution doesnt even give an express right to privacy.
That's not right. Article I, section 10, clause 1 is a negative right. Essentially, that means that state government is prohibited from nullifying a contract lawfully entered into. That right is individually enforced in a lawsuit, just like the first amendment. Not only that, substantive due process protects a person's right to contract.

A right to privacy (against the government) is implied by the due process clause and is specifically outlined by supreme court case law.

Also, states have no right to enter into treaties.

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