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Old 07-07-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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What I don't understand are posters saying "I think she killed her child, but I don't think it was proven". The comment is contradictory. If you think she killed her child - then it was proven, at least to you.

 
Old 07-07-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: High Cotton
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It's rather common really - people are tried and sucessfully convicted of murder without bodies, without direct evidence, without cause of death, quite frequently.

"Proof" is subjective. Obviously this jury had different thoughts on what reasonable doubt is. Perhaps the "CSI effect" has something to do with it (has that been discussed here yet)?

What I don't understand are posters saying "I think she killed her child, but I don't think it was proven". The comment is contradictory. If you think she killed her child - then it was proven, at least to you.
Absolutely agree! The jury in the Casey Anthony case are stupid and totally ignorant. I cannot believe they didn't have any (not even one) questions pertaining to the verdict. All 12 members of the jury should be ashamed of themselves for letting a child murderer walk free when they admittedly think she killed her child. STUPID!
 
Old 07-07-2011, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Absolutely agree! The jury in the Casey Anthony case are stupid and totally ignorant. I cannot believe they didn't have any (not even one) questions pertaining to the verdict. All 12 members of the jury should be ashamed of themselves for letting a child murderer walk free when they admittedly think she killed her child. STUPID!
Again I ask, what questions did you want them to ask?
 
Old 07-07-2011, 09:47 AM
 
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Absolutely agree! The jury in the Casey Anthony case are stupid and totally ignorant. I cannot believe they didn't have any (not even one) questions pertaining to the verdict. All 12 members of the jury should be ashamed of themselves for letting a child murderer walk free when they admittedly think she killed her child. STUPID!
That's awfully rough. I don't think this jury did anything that deserves that kind of ill will. I remember one person, a high school history teacher, took a copious amount of notes.

Most juries don't come back with questions during deliberations. Jury instructions are revised every year to make them more clear.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 09:48 AM
 
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What I don't understand are posters saying "I think she killed her child, but I don't think it was proven". The comment is contradictory. If you think she killed her child - then it was proven, at least to you.
I don't think that's true. I can suspect that I have 4 pens in my drawer based on the evidence of my memory, but that doesn't mean it's proven by any high standard.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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THINK

PROVE


two totally differant concepts
 
Old 07-07-2011, 10:01 AM
 
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That's awfully rough. I don't think this jury did anything that deserves that kind of ill will.
You mean other than failing to validate the feelings of the lynch mob?
 
Old 07-07-2011, 10:02 AM
 
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Again I ask, what questions did you want them to ask?
It is clear that the jury thought they needed absolute certain proof on a number of elements (e.g. cause of death) in order to convict. That is NOT correct, but no one on the jury asked for clarification. Comprehend?
 
Old 07-07-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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That's awfully rough. I don't think this jury did anything that deserves that kind of ill will. I remember one person, a high school history teacher, took a copious amount of notes.

Most juries don't come back with questions during deliberations. Jury instructions are revised every year to make them more clear.
Taking a copious amount of notes does not mean you understand anything. On a murder conviction trial there are usually many questions asked by the jury...
 
Old 07-07-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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It is clear that the jury thought they needed absolute certain proof on a number of elements (e.g. cause of death) in order to convict. That is NOT correct, but no one on the jury asked for clarification. Comprehend?
Actually it's beyond "reasonable doubt", and again, what questions/clarifications did you want them to ask?
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