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Old 07-07-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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Exactly... everybody knows that Casey is guilty of something... She was found guilty of lying to the cops...

This is a lesson learned for all prosecutors... Get ALL the facts before you file a case against somebody...

This reminds me of the Duke University LaCrosse team case... The prosecutor was found guilty of falsifying evidence and was disbarred... This proves you can't completely trust the court system... Get a good lawyer...

If anybody is to blame... It's the prosecution... for having tunnel vision and almost blindly going after the defendant... and not trying to prove what REALLY happened...

That's why Casey got off...

 
Old 07-07-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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It's the jury's job to decide if the evidence proves guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
This has been said again and again. I do think people understand that. But, don't you think, even a smidge, that they could have gotten it wrong? That maybe they didn't understand the difference between "reasonable" and "absolute"? I really believe that. And I am not trying to "hang" the jury about their decision. But, questioning it may prevent this from happening in the future.

12 different people, 12 different backgrounds, 12 different emotional makeups, 12 different levels of intellegence....there needs to be a much clearer understanding because there WILL be a next time.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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It's the jury's job to decide if the evidence proves guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
That does not mean that they can not be criticized for their decisions if people do not agree with them. Just because that is thier decision does not mean they are alway right. If we just let jurors make whatever decision they want with out asking why then we are not making sure justice is served.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 02:24 PM
 
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I am surprised the child abuse charge came back not guilty. Not bothering to report your "missing" child for 31 days ought to be considered child abuse.
The prosecution charged "aggravated" child abuse which means they had to prove that Casey battered, tortured, maliciously punished, caged, or caused permanent disfigurement. Child neglect was not charged.

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This has been said again and again. I do think people understand that. But, don't you think, even a smidge, that they could have gotten it wrong? That maybe they didn't understand the difference between "reasonable" and "absolute"? I really believe that. And I am not trying to "hang" the jury about their decision. But, questioning it may prevent this from happening in the future.

12 different people, 12 different backgrounds, 12 different emotional makeups, 12 different levels of intellegence....there needs to be a much clearer understanding because there WILL be a next time.
I don't think that because I watched the trial and I have doubts that she did it. I think my doubts are reasonable. I'd hate for people to tell me I'm some kind of evil person because I wasn't persuaded by the evidence.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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This has been said again and again. I do think people understand that. But, don't you think, even a smidge, that they could have gotten it wrong? That maybe they didn't understand the difference between "reasonable" and "absolute"?
No, I don't. Both sides and the judge take great care to make sure the jury knows what their job is and what they may and may not do and as Matt30 mentioned earlier, those instructions are constantly being refined to be even more clear.

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If we just let jurors make whatever decision they want with out asking why then we are not making sure justice is served.
I'm reminded of a quote from Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

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This is a court of law, young man, not a court of justice."

Those who are crying for justice for Caylee might want to stop and ponder that one for awhile.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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I don't think that because I watched the trial and I have doubts that she did it. I think my doubts are reasonable.
As Denzel Washington in Training Day said, "Its not what you know, it's what you can prove." She is guilty as sin. I can read it all over her face and in her entire demeanor and every action of hers. I've seen people deal with losses. I'm really good friends with a couple who found their son hanging in the garage from suicide. I've had a personally tragedy in which I saw one of my family members killed. The defense said people deal with grief in different ways. I've seen those ways. I know what grief looks like, and it doesn't look like this...

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Old 07-07-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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Exactly... everybody knows that Casey is guilty of something... She was found guilty of lying to the cops...

This is a lesson learned for all prosecutors... Get ALL the facts before you file a case against somebody...

This reminds me of the Duke University LaCrosse team case... The prosecutor was found guilty of falsifying evidence and was disbarred... This proves you can't completely trust the court system... Get a good lawyer...

If anybody is to blame... It's the prosecution... for having tunnel vision and almost blindly going after the defendant... and not trying to prove what REALLY happened...

That's why Casey got off...
I see absolutely no comparison to the Duke LaCrosse team. I think it is and was clear that the only suspect is Casey, even to those here who think the case wasn't proven. The lack of evidence is because Casey destroyed it (combined with some luck) - by lying for 30 days, and the acts of nature on a child's body thrown away into a swamp like a sack of garbage.
No, I can't agree with your premise at all. The prosecution presented all the evidence there was.

Your post almost has me wondering if you even have the basic facts about the Anthony case.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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The prosecution presented all the evidence there was.
Which wasn't enough to convict her.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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I see absolutely no comparison to the Duke LaCrosse team. I think it is and was clear that the only suspect is Casey, even to those here who think the case wasn't proven. The lack of evidence is because Casey destroyed it (combined with some luck) - by lying for 30 days, and the acts of nature on a child's body thrown away into a swamp like a sack of garbage.
No, I can't agree with your premise at all. The prosecution presented all the evidence there was.

Your post almost has me wondering if you even have the basic facts about the Anthony case.
Thank you. Tried to rep you but I have to spread it around. I completely agree. I don't see how anyone see a comparison to Duke lacrosse.

As Dr. G said: "There is no child that should have duct tape on its face when it dies."
 
Old 07-07-2011, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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As Dr. G said: "There is no child that should have duct tape on its face when it dies."
So there is no doubt that her mouth was taped?
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