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Old 09-18-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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Yes, actualy she did. She said she had called George to ask him if he was the one who left it down.
In court when Cindy started with the lies ... the phone call to George regarding the pool ladder came up ... no pings, no record of such a call. I do recall that. Ashton or Burdick one had the telephone records. Then Baez said it could have been a burner or whatever a disposable phone is called. Jose always had an answer for everything.

 
Old 09-18-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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Their 15 minutes of fame has to be over. They need to go back into obscurity, ad infinitum. Ad nauseum.
 
Old 09-18-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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Their 15 minutes of fame has to be over. They need to go back into obscurity, ad infinitum. Ad nauseum.
That is why I didn't watch the Dr Phil interview ... I don't want to see or hear from another Anthony. I don't think I will even buy Jeff Ashton's book now ... I am through with all the players. The prosecution has to feel the same way ... they got hung out to dry with this group ... the Anthonys, Baez, Cheney Mason, Dorothy Sims, & the Pinellas 12.
 
Old 09-18-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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In court when Cindy started with the lies ... the phone call to George regarding the pool ladder came up ... no pings, no record of such a call. I do recall that. Ashton or Burdick one had the telephone records. Then Baez said it could have been a burner or whatever a disposable phone is called. Jose always had an answer for everything.
Now that you mention it I do recall that. I remember Baez asking George about what phone service they used and everythng.
 
Old 09-18-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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Now that you mention it I do recall that. I remember Baez asking George about what phone service they used and everythng.
That was the first time I heard the term 'burner' used ... I had to look that one up at the time. I just called them throw-away phones.
 
Old 09-18-2011, 03:42 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Aside from the dysfunction in their home the bottom line here, she didn't want to be a mother and wanted to put the child up for adoption.

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Acting irresponsibly is one thing....killing your child or placing your child in a situation where they get killed is quite another. Now you're dealing with knowing right from wrong. And just because child will accept parents allowing them to be irresponsible doesn't mean they have no choice but to be irresponsible when there is no one around to bail them out. I get the impression Casey moving out was an attempt to get the girl to grow up. It appears she refused.

And you don't know who was controlling who here. I've been in a situation where it was the child who was controlling the situation but to outsiders it looked like us. I have a SIL who took dss#1 because she believed we were causing his problems but she quickly found he was causing ours. Within six weeks she told her husband, "Either the kid goes or I go." and he was back home. It is very possible that Casey's parents were hanging on for dear life with a kid who refused to grow up. Things might have been quite different if Casey hadn't had a child. The presence of the child means that others would do more for Casey . And for a while it worked and then she moved out.... the rest is history. For all we know, Casey used Caylee to get what she wanted from her parents. When she moved out, and no longer lived with her parents, she didn't need Caylee anymore...

Once you are an adult, you can no longer blame your parents for what YOU choose to do. You make your own choices as an adult. Casey chose to lie about her daughter's death. THAT alone tells me it was her fault whether due to negligence or deliberate actions. I think Caylee was a liability once she was no longer living with her parents. She didn't get her the attention or money once she moved out. I'm sure having a child was very fortuitous for Casey. I'm sure she learned quickly how to use that child to get what she wanted. I suspect Casey manipulated her parents just as she manipulated society when it came to looking for little Caylee. She knew she was dead but went for the attention anyway. THAT is telling.

One thing is clear here. Casey cares for one person only and that is Casey. I have no doubt she'd use her child to manipulate her parents into giving her free room and board and money and whatever else she could get out of them but there comes a point where they no longer wanted to do that. So she moves out, and the child is no longer an asset and, surprise, surprise, she ends up dead in a swamp... This is Casey's doing not her parents doing. If they were controlling, all Casey ever had to do was go on welfare and move out.... Most young adults will rebel against controlling parents not sponge off of them. Don't kid yourself, Casey was calling the shots here.....until she moved out and then Caylee was a liability not an asset....I'm just surprised she didn't just leave her behind when she moved out.

And regardless of how Casey got the way she is, she is the way she is and she is a danger to any child she might have in the future. The fact of the matter is, many people have grown up in worse situations and chosen not to kill their children or lie about their deaths. Most of us seem to be able to rise above our beginnings if they are bad. I'm from a broken home, my father was bi-polar and could be violent, do you think I got everything I needed from my parents? Heck no. As an adult, I reflect back and understand that my father's disease drove much of what happened when I was a child. As an adult, I've worked through any issues I had stemming from my childhood. Sure, I made my mistakes, but I learned from them. Never once have I blamed my childhood for something of my own doing. Just as we can see that upbringing plays a role in attitude, so can Casey. She chose what she chose. Her parents didn't make her do it. More likely, she did it to punish them. She took away the child they loved because Caylee was no longer working to get her what she wanted with her parents...
 
Old 09-18-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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I think that Casey's mentality was that there was no way she was giving her daighter up to her mother and Casey herself didn't want her so...... end result.


Cindy played hard ball, she wasn't going to watch Caylee while Casey went out at nite.

I'll agree its a difficult situation, I've been where the Anthonys were.

You ALWAYS look out for the best interest of the child.

Ever heard the expression "It takes a village to raise a child", in these cases it truely does.

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Old 09-18-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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In court when Cindy started with the lies ... the phone call to George regarding the pool ladder came up ... no pings, no record of such a call. I do recall that. Ashton or Burdick one had the telephone records. Then Baez said it could have been a burner or whatever a disposable phone is called. Jose always had an answer for everything.
Did anyone ever ask any of Cindy's coworkers if she mentioned the ladder being left up?

If they didn't, then we still don't know if Cindy ever mentioned the ladder until she already knew Caylee was dead.
 
Old 09-18-2011, 07:05 PM
 
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I hope nobody will buy any books written by or on behalf of them with the same nonsense. More of the same and now I'm totally convinced how sick this entire family is, only George seems to see a little bit of reality and I really don't understand how 2 people can live in one home with such a different believes...that to me is either that George never dared to say it or still has a hard time believing it.

Cindy is hopeless and helpless and is one of a kind with her daughter...

Both parents to me are sick not to have seen the lies and waiting for 31 days!!!! Nothing they say will change my mind.

This family helped their daughter to get away with murder! One day they will the price.
 
Old 09-18-2011, 10:04 PM
 
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Aside from the dysfunction in their home the bottom line here, she didn't want to be a mother and wanted to put the child up for adoption.
That doesn't give her a pass. In the end, Casey had the final say and chose to keep the child. It's no excuse to say, "well, I wanted to give her up for adoption but........."

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Cindy played hard ball, she wasn't going to watch Caylee while Casey went out at nite.
Still no pass. Doesn't soften in any way what she did. Casey was the parent, not Cindy. Normal people don't kill their children or even drug them if you want to go along with the accident theory, just because they cant find or cant afford a babysitter.

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You ALWAYS look out for the best interest of the child
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In retrospect yes. I doubt Cindy ever imagined things would have turned out the way they did. Like I said, it's not a normal occurence.

I know it isn't your intent to give her a pass, I'm just saying that these things dont make what she did any more understandable.

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