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Old 02-05-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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It is so sad. He had no right to take those innocent babies from their grandparents.
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Old 02-05-2012, 08:10 PM
 
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My goodness gracious alive. This is horrible what an evil man. His dad is a pervert, he killed his wife and now those precious little boys. Susan's family received custody several months ago and you know this is about to kill them ...lost their daughter and now the two grandchildren.

This man was pure evil. I just wish the cops could have charged him with something to avoid the deaths of these young children. This just breaks my heart. It's too bad the pervert dad wasn't in the home.

Soar with the angels Charles and Braden.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I know this is crazy... but I wonder if this could possibly turn out to be a staged murder/suicide. Is it possible that Josh got the boys inside the house, out a different door and then somehow, with the three of them safe outside, have blown the house up? Could he have been nuts enough to think he could pull it off, with the intention of somehow kidnapping the boys and disappearing somewhere with them? I realize this is probably just my overactive imagination, but this whole thing has been so strange from the very beginning. I wouldn't put anything at all past him. They haven't found any bodies as of yet. Obviously, there wouldn't be much left to find, but if there is anything, it will be found. And if nothing is found? Then what?
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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They haven't found any bodies as of yet. Obviously, there wouldn't be much left to find, but if there is anything, it will be found. And if nothing is found? Then what?
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Firefighters rushed to the scene after receiving multiple frantic 911 calls, where they found two young victims and an adult male victim
Josh Powell, 2 young sons, killed in powerful house explosion | Local & Regional | KATU.com - Portland News, Sports, Traffic Weather and Breaking News - Portland, Oregon

Sorry. I think we all wish there were a way your scenario could have happened but it doesn't look like that's possible.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Josh Powell, 2 young sons, killed in powerful house explosion | Local & Regional | KATU.com - Portland News, Sports, Traffic Weather and Breaking News - Portland, Oregon

Sorry. I think we all wish there were a way your scenario could have happened but it doesn't look like that's possible.
Oh, okay. The news I heard said that no bodies had been found. I guess more has happened since I was listening to the news. What a sicko. What a disgusting sicko.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:31 PM
 
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Wow! I have no doubt he did this to hurt the Grandparents. People like this crave the control high, and he won. That is how a psycho like this thinks.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:43 PM
 
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This past Wednesday, a judge had denied an attempt by Josh Powell to regain custody of his children, saying she wouldn't consider returning the two boys to their father until he underwent a psycho-sexual evaluation. A psychologist recommended the evaluation based on undisclosed materials Utah police discovered on Josh Powell's computer in 2009.

CPS is already doing a CYA ... Sherry Hill, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Social and Health Services, said the social worker who was with the children was not a Child Protective Services employee but a contract worker with a private agency that supervises visits for the state. Josh Powell was only allowed a supervise visit with his boys.

Jeffrey Bassett, who represented Powell in the custody case, said he received a brief email from his client just minutes before Powell and the two boys died. It said, "I'm sorry, goodbye."

This makes me sick ... the judicial system nor the state protected these little boys.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:47 AM
 
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Default MORE family violence... Josh Powell blows up his own kids

I'm sickened by too many stories of men killing children but the more I read...

Local News | Josh Powell kills 2 young sons in 'an act of evil,' authorities say | Seattle Times Newspaper
Backstory compiled: Steven Powell, Susan Powell's Father-in-Law, Busted for Child Porn - True Crime Report

... The more I get the feeling his father put him up to betray his wife or killed his wife as a set up for a bigger plan. Josh might have been lured out to that campsite by his own father making promises of something else while his father went to the house and did something underhanded with Susan. He already played the loyalty head game with him when he divorced Josh's mother. He had already interfered in their marriage.

I suspect Steven Powell had designs of getting those 2 boys in his custody for sexual exploitation, even if it meant getting his own son out of the way to make it happen. If Steven would make passes at his own sons bride, there isn't any reason to believe he ever had a real relationship with his son. All just pawns in a sick little game he was playing, likely stringing Josh along his whole life if what his sisters testimony indicates is true of their childhood. During the search for Susan's whereabouts Steven announced in the press that he had an affair with his daughter in law when all other evidence pointed that she wanted nothing to do with him.

This investigation should not close just because Josh committed suicide. I think he committed suicide because of what his own father enlisted him into, only he didn't quite realize what 'that' was until it was too late. I think he allowed betrayal from his father pulling strings and meddling in his family life to unravel his mind. My gut instinct is saying 'grandpa' is a bigger monster than anyone is even beginning to imagine, and that Josh's insane actions were actually a response to his fathers evil and an inability to face the fate he had created for his family. He couldn't see a way to make anything right.

Irrational, yes. Wrong to allow innocents to be harmed, yes. Not an excuse, an explanation, because distraught people do insane things. It's plausible that he had allowed himself to be duped as a tool to groom his very own sons to be delivered to grandpa for sexual abuse. It would be a motive to take them out with him. Not a justification. A motive.

What other motives are there? What on earth is going on in their minds?
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:16 AM
 
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what a tragedy for the children (and the mother, of course)

our system is failing these children time and time again.

they should never have been given back to a murder suspect in the first place, but will we ever learn?
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Just when I think that the depravity of humans has reached a new low, something like this happens. Absolutely a heartbreaking and terrible situation.
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