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Old 02-01-2012, 08:33 PM
 
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England and Wales have a murder rate about 4.5 times lower than the rate in the US. Beyond that, it's tough to compare crime rates due to different reporting standards.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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Actually, the drop in crime has happened all over the nation, except perhaps, Mexican drug cartel related crimes.

There is a correlation with the law legalizing abortion and crime starting its drop about 17 years later. The thought is that unwanted male children were no longer brought into the world, causing crime to drop. One of the biggest predictor of crime is a single parent household with a male child.

We should not lose sight of the fact that after 911 there was a large influx of federal law enforcement in New York City, chasing out drug gangs and cleaning up crooked police.
Giuliani just happened to be in power at the time.
But the crime rate had already dropped to its current level by that time.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:54 PM
 
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England and Wales have a murder rate about 4.5 times lower than the rate in the US. Beyond that, it's tough to compare crime rates due to different reporting standards.
Not sure, but imo the "gun culture" in the US is not helping, I have never been but some people bring guns to political rallies now


What is it like in the UK? do they allow spectators to bring assault weapons, etc? .
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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Please excuse my lack of intelligence. You obviously know so much more than I, but could you please specifically name what they are actually doing now that you find so despicable?

Generally, the queen does good will tours and schmoozing, freeing up the PM to do the actual work. She commands no one but her household staff which can quit any time they please.
Yeah, 600,000 a year in alcohol bills alone is just excellent value for the taxpayer?

I live in London but can't stand the sycophantic deference to the Queen that is actively enforced by an eerily North Korean smokescreen of beaming insincerity where platitudes are bestowed upon the Queen above and beyond genune affinity and whther we like it or not the monarchy is heralded as not just something the British people tolerate but that they so passively endure.

I for one found the whole Jubilee thing nauseating and apart from the odd smattering of Union Jacks on cars there was no way near the amount of street parties and awestruck, whimsical devotion to the Queen that the heavily censored press so desperately tried to suggest. You HAD to LOVE the Queen. Dissenting views were not tolerated. It was cringeworthy beyond all rhyme and reason and in this regard I envy Americans who don't have to tolerate this outdated nonsense.

In the middle of an economic downturn during which life for many people will never be the same. We only seem to congregate or raise a glass in deference to born to rule pageantry and raise a toast only to those in this country whose hierarchal status and privilege will always be the same. Pathetic.


As for crime in the UK we have street gangs, organised crime and exactly the same problems that exist in parts of the US. I have family in America and would say that the worst projects in places like New York, Chicago and Philly would make the council estates in England a mild parody in comparison but violent crime is again on the increase unfortunately.

There are actually alot of historic ties between the crime families of Britain and the US. The Adams family forged links to the IRA and criminals in the States and the legendary Kray Twins went into the casino business in London in a partnership with Bruno and the Philadelphia crime family.
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