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Old 09-16-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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I agree the parents should be accountable. What I don't agree with is that monitoring a kid's account and computer habits will solve the bullying. Well it would at least inform you that your kid is being bullied, since your kid might be embarrassed to share that information with you, the parent. But bullies can create fake facebook pages and websites... Should you tell your kid not to share any pictures on facebook? Even if you do that, anyone could take a picture of your kid at school. Bullies are evil and creative.

I think the only solution to bullying (cyber or not) is to change schools and hope for the best. (well violence works sometimes, but I would only recommend that to my own kid)

This just happened to a loser over 25, but many bullies are underage. What good does Cyberbulling laws do when you are dealing with prosecuting kids? In the end it's your kids and you are responsible for their environment.
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Old 09-16-2011, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Some people used to write abusive crap to me and nobody said anything!!!
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Old 09-16-2011, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I agree the parents should be accountable. What I don't agree with is that monitoring a kid's account and computer habits will solve the bullying. Well it would at least inform you that your kid is being bullied, since your kid might be embarrassed to share that information with you, the parent. But bullies can create fake facebook pages and websites... Should you tell your kid not to share any pictures on facebook? Even if you do that, anyone could take a picture of your kid at school. Bullies are evil and creative.

I think the only solution to bullying (cyber or not) is to change schools and hope for the best. (well violence works sometimes, but I would only recommend that to my own kid)

This just happened to a loser over 25, but many bullies are underage. What good does Cyberbulling laws do when you are dealing with prosecuting kids? In the end it's your kids and you are responsible for their environment.
Sounds to me that the best and simplest solution to "cyber" bullying, is to keep your Child off of the net all together.
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Old 09-16-2011, 08:54 PM
 
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Reading through this thread, I'm going to agree with every post from WhipperSnapper. What Sean Duffy did was cruel but going to jail for it? please.....get some self control and get off the internet.

If someone can't take someone talking bad about them under any circumstances, then what makes them think they can handle what being said over the internet?

Remembrance should be kept between family and friends, not the whole world.
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Old 09-16-2011, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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The Peoples Republic of Britain at its finest.
Already we have the Peoples Republic of China/Vietnam
Peoples Republic of Californiastan (The Liberals/communist that run that state into the ground might as well declare independance and name it that)
Peoples Republic of Turkmehistan
Peoples Republic of Korea.
I guess people never learned from the DownFall of the Soviet Union 21 years ago. communism DOESN'T work!
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Old 09-17-2011, 05:14 AM
 
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Reading through this thread, I'm going to agree with every post from WhipperSnapper. What Sean Duffy did was cruel but going to jail for it? please.....get some self control and get off the internet.

If someone can't take someone talking bad about them under any circumstances, then what makes them think they can handle what being said over the internet?

Remembrance should be kept between family and friends, not the whole world.
One of the things the guy did was post a video on YouTube, entitled Tasha the Tank Engine [Tasha killed herself by jumping under a train], showing the children's character Thomas the Tank Engine with Tasha's face.

18 weeks in prison for all the guy did is fair. He's lucky the families didn't engage in some bullying and harassment of their own.
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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He's lucky the families didn't engage in some bullying and harassment of their own
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Thats a type of Justice I could agree with. They should have took this creep out behind the courthouse { or whatever they call it over there } and gave him a good beating.
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Old 09-18-2011, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Out West
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Some parents don't know, some might be indifferent, others might say get over it or the old sticks and stones malarkey. I'm sensing a whole bunch of let the kids suffer because of parental ignorance, indifference, or inability to resolve other problems.

As for facing the parents as punishment, he just might say, your daughter was a ****, deserved to die and you do too, haha. The prison sentence is appropriate.
You would be sensing wrong. And I'm not sure if Princess was also referring to my post so let me make it clearer:

I did NOT say that the child should suffer because their parents are indifferent or don't know, my POINT WAS, every parent SHOULD care and SHOULD KNOW what their child is doing on the internet. It is their duty. To me, it is NO different than when the child goes to a friend's house. The parent has the obligation to know where that friend lives, have the phone number to that house, have MET the friend and has a line of communication with the friend's parents so that the parent knows where that kid will be, and basically what they will be doing and what times they will be doing them. That is the job of the parent.

What I was responding to was someone stating that parents may not know how FB or other social media sites can be a place for people just like this ahole in this story. Or even worse. I stated I do not accept that answer, it is the parent's JOB to know these things even if they, themselves, have no interest in using such sites.

If your kid has a cell phone, (that you are paying for), you have the RIGHT to know what numbers that kid has called and what numbers have called your kid. You don't have to go through their phone book, you can look at the bill. Or, if you want, you can go through their phone, you bought it, they're your kid, your job is to do whatever you can to keep them safe.

That is in NO way advocating what this guy did or implying that the kid should just suffer. The parents DO have a responsibility in this in that they should be very, extremely aware of what their kid is doing on the internet and their little cell phones. Absolutely.

It's not the kids fault and of course the kid shouldn't have suffered. I can't believe you even remotely read that in my post.
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Old 09-18-2011, 05:23 AM
 
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Sounds to me that the best and simplest solution to "cyber" bullying, is to keep your Child off of the net all together.
So would the best solution to RL bullying keep your child out of school altogether?

Perhaps the more logical solution would be to apply similar laws to 'net stalking and harassing that we do in the real world.
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Old 09-18-2011, 05:24 AM
 
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The Peoples Republic of Britain at its finest.
Already we have the Peoples Republic of China/Vietnam
Peoples Republic of Californiastan (The Liberals/communist that run that state into the ground might as well declare independance and name it that)
Peoples Republic of Turkmehistan
Peoples Republic of Korea.
I guess people never learned from the DownFall of the Soviet Union 21 years ago. communism DOESN'T work!


Mhm.

What do you think of laws that target assault, harassment and stalking in real life? Are they also communist nature?
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