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Old 09-16-2011, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Yes, but of course, pay the money back? Uh huh. Where is she going to get the money to pay it back? Nice, worthless symbolic gesture. Another waste of the tax payer dollar, to sue her, to get this "judgement," which will NEVER be collected on.

But what the hell, as long as people "feel good."
I dont think the tax payers of FL. wil mind Phil......

Let her swim in a pool of debt the rest of her life! I'm just disappointed she didnt get the full 500k charged to her.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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It's not just worthless symbolic gesture... At least she will have this debt hanging over her head...until she pays it all back 'if' she is ever able to do so. Call it financial debt obligation or baggage...whatever, but it does mean something. And it feels good...but not near as good as if she was in prison for murder. Maybe one day she will get a job and 'x' amount will be taken from her to payback the money she owes the state of Florida.
You realize that she's probably got a chapter 7 bankruptcy filing all ready to go? The chance that the state gets this money is somewhere between slim and none.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:34 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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You realize that she's probably got a chapter 7 bankruptcy filing all ready to go? The chance that the state gets this money is somewhere between slim and none.
Bingo
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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You realize that she's probably got a chapter 7 bankruptcy filing all ready to go? The chance that the state gets this money is somewhere between slim and none.
Wouldn't this be exempt? The court can defer payment until she has income.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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It's not just worthless symbolic gesture... At least she will have this debt hanging over her head...until she pays it all back 'if' she is ever able to do so. Call it financial debt obligation or baggage...whatever, but it does mean something. And it feels good...but not near as good as if she was in prison for murder. Maybe one day she will get a job and 'x' amount will be taken from her to payback the money she owes the state of Florida.
Not only that but it sets a precident that when you lie and law enforcement take action based upon the false information recieved that the person lying is culpable financially for that cost, not the public.

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You realize that she's probably got a chapter 7 bankruptcy filing all ready to go? The chance that the state gets this money is somewhere between slim and none.
There are some debts that cannot be discharged under bankrupsy. I would be very surprised if this one would be dimissed. Normally judgements are not. If they were everyone who was ordered to pay a judgement would declare bankrupsy to get out of it. Any future earnings will be garnished, count on it.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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There are some debts that cannot be discharged under bankrupsy. I would be very surprised if this one would be dimissed. Normally judgements are not. If they were everyone who was ordered to pay a judgement would declare bankrupsy to get out of it. Any future earnings will be garnished, count on it.
Depends on the type of judgement and bankruptcy filed.

If theres a way to get around paying the debt they'll do it.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Wouldn't this be exempt? The court can defer payment until she has income.
The court could defer payment, but if she files bankruptcy then it does not matter. All of her current debts will be included.

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There are some debts that cannot be discharged under bankrupsy. I would be very surprised if this one would be dimissed. Normally judgements are not. If they were everyone who was ordered to pay a judgement would declare bankrupsy to get out of it. Any future earnings will be garnished, count on it.
Wrong. Civil judgements are definitely dischargeable. It happens all the time. Restitution owed to victims for willful and malicious injury are not dischargeable, but general restitution can be included in Chapter 7 filings, which is what Casey would file. Ultimately the bankruptcy court will have final say on whether she can discharge this but based on my knowledge of credit and finance law, it will probably happen.
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Old 09-17-2011, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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The court could defer payment, but if she files bankruptcy then it does not matter. All of her current debts will be included.



Wrong. Civil judgements are definitely dischargeable. It happens all the time. Restitution owed to victims for willful and malicious injury are not dischargeable, but general restitution can be included in Chapter 7 filings, which is what Casey would file. Ultimately the bankruptcy court will have final say on whether she can discharge this but based on my knowledge of credit and finance law, it will probably happen.
All things considered, I would hope the court will not allow the bankruptcy. Her debt is a debt to society and punishment for her crime. I would hope they do not allow a bankruptcy to wipe that out...but it's Florida....anything can happen there...
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Old 09-17-2011, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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All things considered, I would hope the court will not allow the bankruptcy. Her debt is a debt to society and punishment for her crime. I would hope they do not allow a bankruptcy to wipe that out...but it's Florida....anything can happen there...
There is nothing they can do about it. The Bankruptcy Court is completely unconnected to the criminal courts and the state of Florida. They are a federal court and they have very little choice of what is and is not allowed to be dis-chargeable as the criteria has already been laid out.
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Old 09-18-2011, 03:11 AM
 
Location: Out West
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Damnit! Now that is going to **** me off! She or her fricken lawyers better not try to pull that stunt.
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