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Old 10-01-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Apparently the child would have had a 99% chance of surviving had the parents sought medical treatment for the infant. Instead they turned only to prayer and the infant died after nine hours.

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-cit...in_faith-.html

Does the punishment fit the crime?

Do you even consider it a crime?

Should the parents ever have been charged at all in your opinion?
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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Maybe they should have just stated they did not have the money. What could be argued with that? I would say these people would benefit more from education than prison. But I grew up in a religious family as well, who always prayed for everything, but went to seek treatment as well, as this family should have done.

Crazy is not illegal, but when you do crazy things and base your actions on religion, those things do have consequences. We can't excuse one thing, and prosecute another. This was a clear act of medical neglect. For example, Eliazabeth Smart's rapist stated he took her to be his wife, based on what God "told" him to do. He is still a rapist, whether God told him to do it or not.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Maybe they should have just stated they did not have the money. What could be argued with that? I would say these people would benefit more from education than prison. But I grew up in a religious family as well, who always prayed for everything, but went to seek treatment as well, as this family should have done.

Crazy is not illegal, but when you do crazy things and base your actions on religion, those things do have consequences. We can't excuse one thing, and prosecute another. This was a clear act of medical neglect. For example, Eliazabeth Smart's rapist stated he took her to be his wife, based on what God "told" him to do. He is still a rapist, whether God told him to do it or not.
Plenty IMO. Lack of money wouldn't be a defense for not properly treating a child medically. County hospitals are required to treat a patient regardless of their financial situation.
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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True, but it would be an interesting defense. In light of the health insurance and health care debate in our country.
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I have to go with the family here, as long as these beliefs have been present for some time. I don't see how to force Amish or Mennonites to get treatment they do not believe in
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Old 10-02-2011, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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True, but it would be an interesting defense. In light of the health insurance and health care debate in our country.
That's true, good point j12

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I have to go with the family here, as long as these beliefs have been present for some time. I don't see how to force Amish or Mennonites to get treatment they do not believe in
After this case the state of Oregon removed the religios exemptions for cases like this, and rightfuly so IMO.
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