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Old 10-27-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Cancelling "appointments" and refusing interviews won't help the police find her baby.

Cancelling appointments and refusing interviews doesn't mean a whole lot in terms of a police investigation and finding baby Lisa, They've gotten all the info Debra Bradley and Jeremy Irwin are going to give them.

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Old 10-27-2011, 05:11 PM
 
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that's why they want to interview them separately. He won't say a word but she has the loose lips. I think if they got her alone for a long time, she would crack without him there.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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that's why they want to interview them separately. He won't say a word but she has the loose lips. I think if they got her alone for a long time, she would crack without him there.
All the direction shes getting is coming from attorneys, I believe there are two, its not going to happen.

I just heard Nancy Grace say, they took the 2 boys DNA. Some mystery DNA was found during the police investigation.

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Old 10-28-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: in my mind
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For me it comes down to this- innocent parents who truly have had their child abducted are OPEN BOOKS. They have nothing to hide. They open their home, their hearts, every aspect of their lives immediately so that investigators can hopefully locate their children.

When that doesn't happen.....basically.....you have to ask.....what are they hiding.
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:19 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The lawyer, Cindy Short is no longer representing the family. She got the boot.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:29 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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.Baby Lisa's Family Delays Interviews With Kansas City Cops | Fox News

Statement Analysis: Telephone Call Made from "Disconnected" Cell Phone (http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/10/cyndi-short-off-irwin-case.html - broken link)
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Old 10-29-2011, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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For me it comes down to this- innocent parents who truly have had their child abducted are OPEN BOOKS. They have nothing to hide. They open their home, their hearts, every aspect of their lives immediately so that investigators can hopefully locate their children.

When that doesn't happen.....basically.....you have to ask.....what are they hiding.
In a perfect world that might be the case. In the real world, parents are almost suspects in these cases, even when they are completely innocent. Look at what Jon Benet's parents went through thanks to detectives who immediately locked in on them.

Best thing anyone can do in these situations is to get a lawyer immediately and give only the most pertinent information.
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Old 10-29-2011, 02:51 PM
 
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This won't end well.
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:38 PM
 
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In a perfect world that might be the case. In the real world, parents are almost suspects in these cases, even when they are completely innocent. Look at what Jon Benet's parents went through thanks to detectives who immediately locked in on them.

Best thing anyone can do in these situations is to get a lawyer immediately and give only the most pertinent information.



are you nuckin' futs? What kind of half ass remark is that? Do you have kids? I doubt it.



ANY mother who's child is missing isn't going to give a rats butt what the police think or care about airing any dirty laundry if it will help to get her child back. ANY loving mom would want to tell the police anything and everything IN CASE it helps find their child.

ANY loving mom and dad would get their ass out there and search for their child. They'd never say they were too 'exhausted' like Ms Deb and Jer said. They'd call their cell phones to see who stole them and if those people had their child.

They wouldn't hide behind lawyers, especially Death penalty lawyers like Deb and Jer have, or put off appointments to discuss new found evidence with the police because they had a tv interview that they're getting paid for like Deb and Jer did. They'd demand that a command center be set up to handle the call from the 'kidnapper'. They'd actually say their daughters name in interviews, instead of 'her'. They wouldn't just only speak to national media because they're getting paid big bucks for those interviews. They'd talk to local media too.. but local media won't pay those big bucks so Deb and Jer won't give them interviews.


Is it any wonder why the cops have focused on those parents? Everything they do and don't do screams guilty knowledge of where their daughter is.

INNOCENT people do not hide behind lawyers when their child is missing.

GUILTY parents hire lawyers so they have a buffer between them and police. Did you know that Deb and Jer refuse to be interviewed separately?
Same thing with Patsy Ramsey and her husband.. Why do that suppose that is?
Could it be to insure that they both stick to the script they concocted?
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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are you nuckin' futs? What kind of half ass remark is that? Do you have kids? I doubt it.



ANY mother who's child is missing isn't going to give a rats butt what the police think or care about airing any dirty laundry if it will help to get her child back. ANY loving mom would want to tell the police anything and everything IN CASE it helps find their child.

ANY loving mom and dad would get their ass out there and search for their child. They'd never say they were too 'exhausted' like Ms Deb and Jer said. They'd call their cell phones to see who stole them and if those people had their child.

They wouldn't hide behind lawyers, especially Death penalty lawyers like Deb and Jer have, or put off appointments to discuss new found evidence with the police because they had a tv interview that they're getting paid for like Deb and Jer did. They'd demand that a command center be set up to handle the call from the 'kidnapper'. They'd actually say their daughters name in interviews, instead of 'her'. They wouldn't just only speak to national media because they're getting paid big bucks for those interviews. They'd talk to local media too.. but local media won't pay those big bucks so Deb and Jer won't give them interviews.


Is it any wonder why the cops have focused on those parents? Everything they do and don't do screams guilty knowledge of where their daughter is.

INNOCENT people do not hide behind lawyers when their child is missing.

GUILTY parents hire lawyers so they have a buffer between them and police. Did you know that Deb and Jer refuse to be interviewed separately?
Same thing with Patsy Ramsey and her husband.. Why do that suppose that is?
Could it be to insure that they both stick to the script they concocted?
Let me ask you something. How is ending up in police custody going to bring any kids back? It's too bad Jon Benet's mom is deceased, because I'd love to see you get face to face with her and say these things. That poor woman died tormented and under a cloud of suspicion because the Boulder Police Department got a serious case of tunnel vision by locking on to them, and what little forensic evidence they didn't botch showed conclusively that no one in the family was involved. It's easy to say that you'd be totally open and vulnerable with the police as you sit behind the safety of a computer, but let's see your life drug out into the national media.

Yeah, it was a horrible idea for them to lawyer up. It probably only saved them from being formally charged and possibly convicted for a crime they didn't commit.

Your post underscores the problem with the way the criminal justice system works these days. Police officers...especially homicide detectives...receive substantial training is psychology and interrogation. They can, and have on multiple occasions, elicit false confessions, twist words around and the like. The average person is unlikely to handle this well, so when they hire a lawyer to help protect their interests, it's seen as a sign of guilt or concealment.
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