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Old 12-06-2011, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Tennessee/Michigan
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“Justin” is 6 feet 2, 250 pounds, with a build that looks like it could split open a suit jacket during a particularly violent sneeze.

But the mixed martial arts expert from Des Plaines insists it was his “training,” not brawn, that allowed him to wrench a loaded pistol from the hand of an alleged mugger who had the weapon pointed at his chest Friday night on the Southwest Side.

Mugger picks wrong victim: MMA fighter - Chicago Sun-Times
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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“Justin” is 6 feet 2, 250 pounds, with a build that looks like it could split open a suit jacket during a particularly violent sneeze.

But the mixed martial arts expert from Des Plaines insists it was his “training,” not brawn, that allowed him to wrench a loaded pistol from the hand of an alleged mugger who had the weapon pointed at his chest Friday night on the Southwest Side.

Mugger picks wrong victim: MMA fighter - Chicago Sun-Times
Boy did the thug pick a wrong victim. It indeed was his training that was the dominant factor in this..His strength only enhances his grappling and takedown skills.

MMA fighters are incredibly conditioned and skilled..The lifestyle and competing requires enormous dedication and discipline. Go Justin!
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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had the weapon pointed at his chest Friday
"Miranda pulled out a gun and shoved it against the side of his head, Justin said."

Actually, Justin sounds like a fool.

Hand over the money Justin. This time you were lucky. Next time you might be dead.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Actually, Justin sounds like a fool.

Hand over the money Justin. This time you were lucky. Next time you might be dead.
I agree. And what kind of a stupid mugger picks a brawny, muscled dude to mug from within reach? Stupid.

And I learned this as a trained fighter - if you hurt someone, even while defending yourself, they are going to find some shady, filthy lawyer to sue your ass for using a 'deadly weapon' or claiming you could have stopped/restrained him with less force or some stupid crap like that. NOT worth it.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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"Miranda pulled out a gun and shoved it against the side of his head, Justin said."

Actually, Justin sounds like a fool.

Hand over the money Justin. This time you were lucky. Next time you might be dead.
Did you read the entire article? He did hand over the money. The mugger wasn't satisfied with the $30 cash that Justin handed over. The mugger was threatening to shoot him if he did not give him something more. In other words, Justin had to react, or else take a bullet in the chest most likely. It's not like he chased this runt down. It was him or the robber. He won.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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I agree. And what kind of a stupid mugger picks a brawny, muscled dude to mug from within reach? Stupid.

And I learned this as a trained fighter - if you hurt someone, even while defending yourself, they are going to find some shady, filthy lawyer to sue your ass for using a 'deadly weapon' or claiming you could have stopped/restrained him with less force or some stupid crap like that. NOT worth it.
He was probably going to get shot if he did not react. You need to read the entire article. Why even train to fight if you can't use it to protect yourself. Stupid investment if that's the case.
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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He was probably going to get shot if he did not react. You need to read the entire article. Why even train to fight if you can't use it to protect yourself. Stupid investment if that's the case.
Give him something more valuable or die?
Give him something.

And there is a time to fight and a time to be smart.
That's the FIRST thing they teach you.
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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Give him something more valuable or die?
Give him something.

And there is a time to fight and a time to be smart.
That's the FIRST thing they teach you.
I think he did the smart thing in this particular case. The suspect seemed like a head case to begin with, so who knows what would have set him off. If I were the MMA fighter and I saw an opportunity open to defend myself, I would do it. It's not as if the MMA fighter was out looking for trouble. I feel like from the story, it was react or be shot by some nutcase mugger.
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: FLG/PHX/MKE
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How on earth did this happen in Illinois? People are not allowed to carry guns in Illinois.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn,NY
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Did you read the entire article? He did hand over the money. The mugger wasn't satisfied with the $30 cash that Justin handed over. The mugger was threatening to shoot him if he did not give him something more. In other words, Justin had to react, or else take a bullet in the chest most likely. It's not like he chased this runt down. It was him or the robber. He won.
Agreed! The guy was going to kill him anyway, He had everything to gain-This being his life by fighting back.

Look im all for peace, But these punks have NO regard for human life. The thug got off easy not having his head furnished to the cement. And any judge with half a brain and experience would laugh a lawsuit out of court in this case.
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