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Old 03-29-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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In many states, it is based on difference in ages, like a 18 year old can have relations with a 15 year old, without charges. Because there is less than 4 years difference in age. However, a 45 year old can be charged for relations with a 15 year old. Because the age difference in more than 4 years.
Something about a 4yr rule was mentioned for Ohio too.

But if the information I pulled up on Ohio is correct and there consent age is 16 and this girl was 17 at the time of the incident, shes legal to have sex with a 21 yr old, so the 4 yr age rule doesn't come into play.

Third tier includes felony sex with a minor. Its possible the ages are listed incorrectly, somethings not right with that.
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Old 03-29-2012, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Military City, USA.
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For those that don't believe molesters can be rehabilitated see the Movie "The Woodsman"

I really do think Joe Paterno had no ideal until it was to late!
Stars Kevin Bacon.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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Default Big Trouble in Happy Valley

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Not just other coachs but now law enforcement knew... for years ahead of his final arrests.

This is the most blatant of fails... so many knew and could have/should have pushed hard to verify/arrest this scumbag.

I too wonder, sugarmaple, how these cowardly people are sleeping...

especially the coach who witnessed a boy raped and said nothing.
This is horrible: the NCAA should have suspended the Penn State football program until this issue has been fully investigated.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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BooHoo.*Poor, poor, poor misunderstood sex offender. Studies show these creeps have a hard time finding a place to live, a job, and assimilating in any town. Neighbors who hate each other will agree on this guy: NIMBY

Registration has been found to have a variety of negative collateral consequences for the registrant that include impeding employment and housing, disrupting supportive relationships, and sub- jecting the registrant to social harassment and rejection (Levenson, 2003; Leven- son & Cotter, 2005a, 2005b; Redlich, 2001; Tewksbury, 2002, 2004, 2005; Zevitz & Farkas, 2000). Thus, the current literature suggests that sex offender registra- tion and public notification has a cost in impeding the community reintegration of the offender, which may increase their risk of recidivism.

The Middle Eastern societies have a pretty simple idea. They either remove the offending body part, as in the hand of the thief, or they permanently remove the offender. There is no "poor baby" coddling and no second chance to harm a child.
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:31 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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The Middle Eastern societies have a pretty simple idea. They either remove the offending body part, as in the hand of the thief, or they permanently remove the offender. There is no "poor baby" coddling and no second chance to harm a child.
Unfortunately in the US, this will never happen.

The only thing we could do is send them on a vacation overseas they never return from or without the offending body part and an ostomy bag.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Chambersburg PA
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BooHoo.*Poor, poor, poor misunderstood sex offender. Studies show these creeps have a hard time finding a place to live, a job, and assimilating in any town. Neighbors who hate each other will agree on this guy: NIMBY

Registration has been found to have a variety of negative collateral consequences for the registrant that include impeding employment and housing, disrupting supportive relationships, and sub- jecting the registrant to social harassment and rejection (Levenson, 2003; Leven- son & Cotter, 2005a, 2005b; Redlich, 2001; Tewksbury, 2002, 2004, 2005; Zevitz & Farkas, 2000). Thus, the current literature suggests that sex offender registra- tion and public notification has a cost in impeding the community reintegration of the offender, which may increase their risk of recidivism.

The Middle Eastern societies have a pretty simple idea. They either remove the offending body part, as in the hand of the thief, or they permanently remove the offender. There is no "poor baby" coddling and no second chance to harm a child.
Once again; Sex offender does NOT always mean child molester! And many sex offenders who have done their time, and lived for years, even decades without re-offending were forced to register. Even John Walsh says the registry as it is, is nothing like what he intended.
Studies show that an offender who has support is less likely to re-offend, isn't that what we want?
Taking away the opportunity to work and live just makes the problem worse. Add to that, that many have families, including kids of their own that need supporting. The families, who regardless are innocent, have to suffer as well...and ultimately we as tax-payers pay the price.
Oh, and to add, it is far too easy to falsely accuse someone of such a crime, since only the "victim's" statement is needed as evidence to prosecute in many states (including PA) As long as they claim they were 13 or under when the alleged incident supposedly happened. And if you're the accused you'd better have means to hire a GOOD lawyer if you want to stand half a chance of getting aquitted, and even if you are, you're reputation is most likely ruined.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Chambersburg PA
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Proposed law may help some sex offenders get off registry


Finally someone's getting it
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Chambersburg PA
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Once a Sex Offender, Always a Sex Offender? Maybe not.: Scientific American


I think the scariest thing in this article is that they mention a 5 year old registered as a sex offender!
A 5yr old is most likely a victim of molestation by a relative or trusted family friend, and is probably acting out that abuse.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:30 AM
 
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Now, that is interesting, has a child molester used the fact that he/she was molested as a child, as a defense? I believe that there have been cases like that, but don't know of any right off. Could that be an issue for Sandusky? That he was a victim, and is now a perpetrator?
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Now, that is interesting, has a child molester used the fact that he/she was molested as a child, as a defense? I believe that there have been cases like that, but don't know of any right off. Could that be an issue for Sandusky? That he was a victim, and is now a perpetrator?
If it will help his case, (lessor sentencing), I have no doubt his attorneys will use it to their advantage.

Hes still a pedophile, that was protected.
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