Jon Benet- Parents Didn't Do It, So Who DID? (evidence, lawyer, friend)

[nighthouse66]

the other jon benet ramsey thread on here was getting mighty ungainly and i decided to start a new one, with the presumption that those who post here pretty much agree that the parents didn't do it. i don't believe they did, and i understand that many people do, and they have had their say on the other thread.

what i would really like this to be about is ALTERNATE theories. those seem to be thin on the ground. its easy to think that the parents did it, but the evidence simply is NOT there.

for a LONG time i believed that it was the young son who did it. that would explain SO much. the parents' reluctance and lawyering up, while certainly explainable for benign reasons, could have been trying to cover up for their son. but the DNA didn't match. so, what's left?

anyone have any ideas? And again, i think it would be more interesting to focus on OTHER suspects, not the parents, if everyone is ok with that.

i personally think that it was someone who knew them, someone with knowledge of the house, but not a blood relative; someone who was disgruntled with the family and also had pedophiliac tendencies, obviously. someone who was quite together enough to sit in that house and write a ransom note, because he knew the habits of the family. not some drifter off the street. anyone know of anyone who fits this profile in the family?

[virgode]

Patsy ademently denied certain small facts, it makes me wonder about the bigger things she missed.

When asked where Burke was when she made the 911 call to report JonBenet missing, she told investigators he was sleeping....reports say Burke could clearly be heard in the background on 911 call tapes.

Why would she deny something as simple as her child eating pineapple the nite before, when clearly, she ate pineapple found in the fridge, and on the autopsy report?

The handwriting in the ransom note matches Patsy Ramsey. If she didn't write the letter, someone took the time to practice duplicating her handwriting.

If not the family, it had to be someone they knew well.

[Sandhillian]

As I mentioned on the other thread, I would like to see more investigation into the friends of the older son.

[MsAnnThrope]

So...a new thread on alternate theories, with zero theories?

I had assumed that there would be a rush of alternate suspects, but looky here...NONE.

If you read PR's interview transcript, she did her best to throw everyone else under the bus, including "close friends" Mr & Mrs Fleet White.

Despite all the finger pointing, no alternate suspect was ever identified.

I had hoped that OP had a genuine theory to offer but it appears not...should this thread be renamed "John and Patsy didn't do it because I don't want to believe they did"?

[virgode]

Originally Posted by MsAnnThrope

So...a new thread on alternate theories, with zero theories?

I had assumed that there would be a rush of alternate suspects, but looky here...NONE.

If you read PR's interview transcript, she did her best to throw everyone else under the bus, including "close friends" Mr & Mrs Fleet White.

Despite all the finger pointing, no alternate suspect was ever identified.

I had hoped that OP had a genuine theory to offer but it appears not...should this thread be renamed "John and Patsy didn't do it because I don't want to believe they did"?

I've read Johns transcripts, never read PR's.

[MsAnnThrope]

http://www.acandyrose.com/1998BPD-Pa...w-Complete.htm

[sheena12]

Originally Posted by virgode

Patsy ademently denied certain small facts, it makes me wonder about the bigger things she missed.

When asked where Burke was when she made the 911 call to report JonBenet missing, she told investigators he was sleeping....reports say Burke could clearly be heard in the background on 911 call tapes.

Why would she deny something as simple as her child eating pineapple the nite before, when clearly, she ate pineapple found in the fridge, and on the autopsy report?

The handwriting in the ransom note matches Patsy Ramsey. If she didn't write the letter, someone took the time to practice duplicating her handwriting.

If not the family, it had to be someone they knew well.

It does and I agree V.

Burke could not have garroted his little sister. Or thought this up himself.

The parent might not have done it, but their flustered and unusual behavior indicates that they are covering for someone. If not themselves.

The note was penned by Patsy and I have no doubt about this.

[virgode]

Originally Posted by sheena12

It does and I agree V.

Burke could not have garroted his little sister. Or thought this up himself.

The parent might not have done it, but their flustered and unusual behavior indicates that they are covering for someone. If not themselves.

The note was penned by Patsy and I have no doubt about this.

The child had stun gun marks on her neck and back. I posted the two links with pros and cons of that investigation in the other JBR thread.

Investigators say the marks didn't match up perfectly, what else would the marks be?

CA4NOW posted new info, based on new technology (in the other JBR thread as well), none matched the family.

Would the family cover for someone...IDK....The perp is out there.

[nighthouse66]

Originally Posted by MsAnnThrope

So...a new thread on alternate theories, with zero theories?

I had assumed that there would be a rush of alternate suspects, but looky here...NONE.

If you read PR's interview transcript, she did her best to throw everyone else under the bus, including "close friends" Mr & Mrs Fleet White.

Despite all the finger pointing, no alternate suspect was ever identified.

I had hoped that OP had a genuine theory to offer but it appears not...should this thread be renamed "John and Patsy didn't do it because I don't want to believe they did"?

well, that's a little rude, i did mention i believed burke had something to do with it. i am more interested in hearing others' theories, instead of grandstanding on my own. the other thread is 65 pages long at this point, if not more. that's a whole lotta "i think the parents did it!" did this for my own interest, sorry if you take umbrage.

saying "i don't want to believe it" implies i am ignoring something because patsy was my bff or suchlike. nope. never met the lady. i just don't think the evidence says that. i have no emotional reasons for believing she didn't do it, just the facts don't add up. seems to me alot of people think she did it simply because she put her daughter in beauty pageants. now if that isn't flimsy, i don't know the meaning of the word. THAT is emotional, groundless, and not evidence of anything except pining for her own lost pageant days.

i just believed, in the beginning, that they did it, much like i believed that OJ was innocent. yeah, safe to say, i have rejected both theories. if the glove doesn't fit.....maybe you should take off the other glove, oj, before you try and fool us again.

but yes, i think she wrote the note, but why, i have no idea. maybe she was planning on fleeing with a lover? and the lover had his own ideas? and she couldn't come out and say, "i been cheating on you, john, oops, he just killed our daughter".

sorry to be so flippant. just trying to put it in a nutshell?

[nighthouse66]

Originally Posted by sheena12

It does and I agree V.

Burke could not have garroted his little sister. Or thought this up himself.

The parent might not have done it, but their flustered and unusual behavior indicates that they are covering for someone. If not themselves.

The note was penned by Patsy and I have no doubt about this.

i think with the prevalence of violence on tv, and a good library, the kid could have figured it out. maybe.

maybe the parents suspected something was up, and didn't want to call out the dogs because they suspected each other?

on the other hand, handwriting can be tricky. you can't convict someone on a handwriting sample alone.

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