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Old 12-04-2012, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by markg91359 View Post
I hope this is an emotional reaction and not something you really mean.

If this were really possible, you'd have no one willing to serve as a judge, got that? Why would I as a lawyer, want to ever be a judge if it could potentially lead me to going to prison as an accomplice to murder. No judges means no system means anarchy. I sure as hell wouldn't serve as a judge in the system you advocate.

I suppose the other alternative would be that you'd have judges who never ever, let any criminal suspect out of jail on bail. The problem there is that bail is constitutional right and the Eighth Amendment prohibits the imposition of "excessive bail". The clear implication is that bail must be available for most crimes. Also, if no bail were granted any criminal in about a week every prison and jail in this country would be jam packed.

Anyway, that's how things work here.
Big difference between excessive bail and not letting a suspected killer have unsupervised visiting rights with a toddler.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:40 AM
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Most judges simply are corrupt, biased, and careless. No wonder people (especially men) have no faith in the legal system or law enforcement.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:08 AM
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Most judges simply are corrupt, biased, and careless. No wonder people (especially men) have no faith in the legal system or law enforcement.

This is the kind of general, broad, and outrageous statement that I read too frequently in this forum. If anything causes me to stop posting here its going to be people who give this kind of general (and useless) opinion without providing any substantive evidence to back it up. BTW, citing one article in a newspaper where you disagree with one decision doesn't prove all or most judges are corrupt or biased or whatever.

Since you referred to "men" in your post, my thoughts are that either you or a relative ended up on the losing side of a child custody or divorce case and now believe most judges are bad. My mother was the victim of a serious case of medical malpractice, yet I don't accuse all doctors of being bad doctors as a result. One of the things, most I hope most adults eventually learn to do is to develop an ability to separate bias against one or two individuals from prejudice against an entire group. I know some people who were victimized by one person in a particular ethnic or racial group and now harbor prejudice towards that entire class of people. How bright is that?

Judges cannot make everyone happy if they are doing a good job. Facts and law make some individuals winners and others losers in court. We live in a "feel good" society where many people have come to believe they have a "right" to happiness, a right to a good living, a right to the latest technology, and a right to good medical care. Than, when something interferes with what they believe "are their rights" they are quick to blame the entire system. Judges are easy targets since they make decisions that have far reaching implications for many people.

If people want to convince me that most judges are "corrupt, biased, and careless" they better come here armed with more than a personal opinion. I'm always surprised that despite the fact everyone who posts here has the resources of the entire internet at their disposal that they post very little in the way of facts or statistics that would substantiate their position. I've come to expect better.

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