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Old 01-02-2013, 03:04 AM
 
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I just saw on the news that gun permit applications have gone through the roof for women in India.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:19 PM
 
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I just saw on the news that gun permit applications have gone through the roof for women in India.
Good. Some of the smartest women I've ever met are Indian and they tend to also be very beautiful. The fact that they are treated like excrement has got to stop. A couple of would-be rapists get a 45 shell to the head, maybe the criminals will reconsider their intentions. Maybe not, but they wont be around to harm anyone else's daughter.
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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Plus lots of women are taking martial arts classes. I think the fact they've been treated as second class citizens is deep rooted and is a shame. Maybe the next generation will get more respect because it'll take ages to get men to accept changes. I can't believe when I read what happened to this lady but when you hear of all those so called honor killings and things like that, it's almost like those countries are on a different planet. Or you wish they were on a different planet. I suppose the internet makes it so that we hear more of those things nowadays. It's horrible that some humans see this as acceptable behavior.
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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To me this is a political issue. There is actually far more outrage in India than here in the USA over frequently occurring rapes/ murders. How many times have you read in the paper about a woman who was sexually assaulted and murdered? And yet stuff like that is still shown as entertainment on TV nearly every night. We don't have male rape depicted as entertainment on TV crime dramas all the time.

Or this case in Steubenville Ohio where football players sexually assaulted and posted pictures of a girl and many have turned on her. "The girl’s friends have ostracized her, and parents have kept their children away from her, the mother said." There are still an awful lot of unenlightened people, including those in the legal system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/sp...nted=all&_r=2&

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Old 01-02-2013, 07:38 PM
 
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Or this case in Steubenville Ohio where football players sexually assaulted and posted pictures of a girl and many have turned on her. "The girl’s friends have ostracized her, and parents have kept their children away from her, the mother said." There are still an awful lot of unenlightened people, including those in the legal system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/sp...nted=all&_r=2&

You have several American sicknesses converging on this case. In addition to the violence against women, you have the ridiculous athlete-worship at work. Apparently, Anonymous is hard at work on this case. I'd hate to have them on my tail. Just ask Karl Rove. If they can prevent a presidential election from being stolen, they can certainly make life for the enablers of these vermin miserable.

Steubenville High School Students Joke About Rape In Video Leaked By Anonymous
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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You have several American sicknesses converging on this case. In addition to the violence against women, you have the ridiculous athlete-worship at work. Apparently, Anonymous is hard at work on this case. I'd hate to have them on my tail. Just ask Karl Rove. If they can prevent a presidential election from being stolen, they can certainly make life for the enablers of these vermin miserable.

Steubenville High School Students Joke About Rape In Video Leaked By Anonymous
That video is sickening. What is wrong with young men? Who is raising these scum?
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Old 01-02-2013, 08:49 PM
 
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That video is sickening. What is wrong with young men? Who is raising these scum?
Yes, sometimes we can attribute much of the blame to parents, but there are other occasions in which normal parents raise destructive children.

How do we change our culture when many are resistant to changing barbaric behaviors and attitudes? Create a social penalty, if not a legal penalty, for these backwards, destructive attitudes and behaviors. Stigmatize and ostracize. It has worked, it does work.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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Women are not safe any place, it seems like.
Singapore, where a woman can take a walk anytime anywhere in town. It's Disneyland with a hangman's noose where raping a woman never ends well for the rapist.

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What is with men, who do this crime? Do they realize how completely depraved it is to act like this? No self control, or empathy for the victim, who in this case, DIED, from their heinous depravity.

Appalled.

And, I never want to EVER go to India!!!! That is for sure!!!!!
As a normal man I can assure you it has nothing to do with sex or love.

As far as going to the human sewer that is India I could never understand the attraction.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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That video is sickening. What is wrong with young men? Who is raising these scum?
Those were silly, ignorant young men ...it's worse when it's from someone like this...Fury as Indian guru blames Jyoti Singh Pandey for vicious gang attack which killed her | Mail Online
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:57 PM
 
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Singapore, where a woman can take a walk anytime anywhere in town. It's Disneyland with a hangman's noose where raping a woman never ends well for the rapist.



As a normal man I can assure you it has nothing to do with sex or love.

As far as going to the human sewer that is India I could never understand the attraction.
Those were truly disgusting pictures.

That said, I have often asked myself what a given person - you or I - would do if, by accident of birth, we were placed in that situation. Can one individual poor person effect a change? Do they even know enough to change anything? Or is this their normal, something they are unfazed by?

I have no answers, but I have to believe that a totally corrupt and selfish government has a lot to do with it, as does the caste system undoubtedly.

During my visit to Singapore, a tour guide explained to us that SIngapore was once a very filthy place with raw sewage all over the river. It took an iron hand to clean it up, and what a job they did!

To relate that back to the rape case, something tells me that this is not an instance of one set of "bad guys". This seems to happen a lot in India, and there has to be a far more systemic reason for it - maybe a whole lot of them. And many of them may be the same reasons that lead to those disgusting pictures you linked to.

The silver lining here is the huge unrest this has caused. Lets hope they keep up the pressure until the government realizes that nukes are less important that the general well-being of the country's citizens.

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