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Old 01-05-2013, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Very sadly, her profession probably WOULD be called into question during the court case. There is an absolute culture of blaming rape victims and even of suggesting that certain 'kinds' of woman can't be raped. And then we wonder why women hesitate to report rape.

I think anyone who knew of the girl's rape in the original story should be prosecuted and that their punishment should be more hefty than a slap on the wrist. Much heftier. I want them all off the street.
Anyone that knew???

Since when is knowing of a crime a crime?

Since when is not stopping a crime a crime?

I could stand by and watch you get murdered, laugh about it, film it and as long as I didn't actually have anything to do with it walk off scot free. Heck, I wouldn't even have to testify.

Not that I would do any of that but...

The boys in the video are only guilty of bad taste... As long as they aren't the perps.

 
Old 01-05-2013, 01:06 AM
 
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Anyone that knew???

Since when is knowing of a crime a crime?

Since when is not stopping a crime a crime?

I could stand by and watch you get murdered, laugh about it, film it and as long as I didn't actually have anything to do with it walk off scot free. Heck, I wouldn't even have to testify.

Not that I would do any of that but...

The boys in the video are only guilty of bad taste... As long as they aren't the perps.
I believe in some states you may face a small fine if you witness a crime and do not report. Regardless, I said I personally think there should be a punishment, not that one currently exists. Failing to report witnessing a crime may not be legally punishable at this time, but I think it should be.
Failing to report witnessing a violent crime is not simply bad taste...it is an appalling moral failing.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 01:11 AM
 
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Anyone that knew???

Since when is knowing of a crime a crime?

Since when is not stopping a crime a crime?

I could stand by and watch you get murdered, laugh about it, film it and as long as I didn't actually have anything to do with it walk off scot free. Heck, I wouldn't even have to testify.

Not that I would do any of that but...

The boys in the video are only guilty of bad taste... As long as they aren't the perps.
As early as 1994 in some states. It was a big televised event...
 
Old 01-05-2013, 01:53 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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I believe in some states you may face a small fine if you witness a crime and do not report. Regardless, I said I personally think there should be a punishment, not that one currently exists. Failing to report witnessing a crime may not be legally punishable at this time, but I think it should be.
Failing to report witnessing a violent crime is not simply bad taste...it is an appalling moral failing.






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As early as 1994 in some states. It was a big televised event...

You both are speaking of Misprision of a Felony.

Its a federal law and requires active concealment of the crime. Simply not reporting a crime is not punishable.

I agree it might be morally reprehensible but that is irrelevant. It also might save your life depending on the crime and criminal.

If cops don't have to save or protect you good luck making the case that civilians do...
 
Old 01-05-2013, 02:22 AM
 
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You both are speaking of Misprision of a Felony.

Its a federal law and requires active concealment of the crime. Simply not reporting a crime is not punishable.

I agree it might be morally reprehensible but that is irrelevant. It also might save your life depending on the crime and criminal.

If cops don't have to save or protect you good luck making the case that civilians do...
Sure makes them A-holes though. Really, how hard is it to slip outside and use a phone to call the cops?

There was a movie called "The Accused" with Jodie Foster that focused on this subject. The young guy didn't actively stop the gang rape, but he slipped outside and used a payphone to call it in. Disturbing film.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 02:26 AM
 
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You both are speaking of Misprision of a Felony.

Its a federal law and requires active concealment of the crime. Simply not reporting a crime is not punishable.

I agree it might be morally reprehensible but that is irrelevant. It also might save your life depending on the crime and criminal.

If cops don't have to save or protect you good luck making the case that civilians do...
You're absolutely wrong.

I'm talking about the Good Samaritan laws in some states that require you to, at the minimum, call 911 when someone is in need of help. Being raped is being in need of help.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 03:53 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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What??? You never heard of them? Been living under a rock???

Just wiki Anonymous.
lol...No such thing as a leaderless group. That alone puts their anonymity in jeopardy.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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I didn't get this.
Is she dead ??
Are these mens drunk ? if so.
How bad!
Why do people drink Alcohol ? If there is a horrible things such crime will happen. they don't need to drink these things.
replace it with other drinks and make your life more safe and comfort.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 07:40 AM
 
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You're absolutely wrong.

I'm talking about the Good Samaritan laws in some states that require you to, at the minimum, call 911 when someone is in need of help. Being raped is being in need of help.
False.

Good Samaritan laws only offer civil liability protections to people that act in good faith to help in certain situations.

Cite your law or bull****.

By the way, no good Samaritan law requires any lay person to act. Police are also not required to act. Warren vs District of Columbia...

The closest you'll get to even being partially right are mandatory reporter laws which only apply to certain "jobs" and certain instances.


You need to learn your own laws man.

NJ Good Samaritan Act
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2012/Bills/A1000/578_R1.PDF

And I believe Christie vetoed this in any case...

Seriously... ignorance of the law is just wow. Especially in the Google age.

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Old 01-05-2013, 10:43 AM
 
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I know in both NV and CA it is illegal not to report crimes against children (under the age of 18 in NV and under the age of 15 in CA.) Both laws were passed after a case involving a child who was molested and murdered. A man witnessed the molestation and did not report it.
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