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Old 01-17-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Should I continue this silly subject? aw why not...OK, so what is the motive here - some government false flag to take over liberties by shooting dozens of kids and then doing some mind control/brain washing trick on the hundreds of first responders, reporters, and parents that were involved?
If so then why don't they do this Jedi mind trick on the rest of government since you have almost the entire congress, both democrats and republicans, opposing (thanksfully and rightfully so) the "assualt weapons ban".

But you are aware of what you percieve of as "proof" of government consipracy, but are simply open questions and/or innacuracies. The fact that you don't have any video footage is not "proof" by any stretch, it's simply a blank spot. The fact that there was some guy running through the woods is not "proof" - it's an unknown. The fact that the local Barney Fife told a reporter this or that is not proof either. It's just another blank spot. Nor is it circumstantial evidence to build up to conclude anthing other than that how life unfolds is not some nice neat package where all your questions are revealed. I love people questioning government, and reporters for that matter. But to take it to silly extremes is just crazy.

As the person above said, when police, government, and reporters are involved, expect this in this order - disorder, incompentence, negligence, human errors...and way way down the list on the simplest level when it - conspiracy (and conspiracies quickly unravel due to the first items listed).
What is the motive of the government? Gun control.
What is Adam Lanza's motive? No idea at all. Does anyone know? Can anyone answer that question?

I never said that anyone used mind control. I never said that this was a hoax or a false flag. I said that there are enough questions and inconsistencies that it is a possibility. Big difference. Questioning the inconsistencies and holes in the official story is not taking anything to a silly extremes nor is it crazy, it's called, critical thinking. Like I said, I'd LOVE for the media to answer these questions and I'd love for them to disprove all conspiracies surrounding this tragedy.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:20 PM
 
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No. It was sort of a "knock, knock. Who's there?" sort of scenario. I agree it was stupid set up, but I always suspect incompetence before conspiracy. Your mileage may vary, but I've seen enough incompetence in this world, that it is always my primary suspect.
I agree that incompetence could be a possibility. If so there is a lot of it in this particular case. And if it is just incompetence, at the very least, people should be outraged by the incompetence displayed by the media who's job it is to ask questions and actually provide factual information.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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What is the motive of the government? Gun control.
What is Adam Lanza's motive? No idea at all. Does anyone know? Can anyone answer that question?
The wish of certain members of government and the liberal media is gun control, I agree. But there would be easier ways to go about that besides killing dozens of children to change public opinion - for one thing, it didn't work, public opinion is still and always will be against outright gun bans according to even recent polls. For another thing, our president can simply enact gun controls via executive action - it will politically doom his party, but he can do it.
Adam Lanza's motive will probably never be known to people who are sane, and if it were known it probably still would not make sense.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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The wish of certain members of government and the liberal media is gun control, I agree. But there would be easier ways to go about that besides killing dozens of children to change public opinion - for one thing, it didn't work, public opinion is still and always will be against outright gun bans according to even recent polls. For another thing, our president can simply enact gun controls via executive action - it will politically doom his party, but he can do it.
Adam Lanza's motive will probably never be known to people who are sane, and if it were known it probably still would not make sense.
Pretty sure he did so today. There is a gun convention in my area right now and the media was asking for attendee's reactions to the new rules. They were surprisingly moderate. Maybe we can all just get along after all.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:37 PM
 
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Pretty sure he did so today. There is a gun convention in my area right now and the media was asking for attendee's reactions to the new rules. They were surprisingly moderate. Maybe we can all just get along after all.
Yes 23 executive actions - the ole shotgun (no pun intended) approach to solving a problem. Such gems as "Nominate an ATF director". All pretty meaningless.
The big one - "assualt weapons" (how I hate that term) ban, he I guess is going to try to stong arm through congress. Good luck on that one (sarcasm there), even Democrat Senate Leader Harry Reid doesn't want it lest he lose his Nevada senate seat.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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The wish of certain members of government and the liberal media is gun control, I agree. But there would be easier ways to go about that besides killing dozens of children to change public opinion - for one thing, it didn't work, public opinion is still and always will be against outright gun bans according to even recent polls. For another thing, our president can simply enact gun controls via executive action - it will politically doom his party, but he can do it.
Adam Lanza's motive will probably never be known to people who are sane, and if it were known it probably still would not make sense.
I agree that if it was a conspiracy, it didn't work. People had the opposite reaction and went out and purchased a whole bunch of guns. I do have many liberal friends, and these friends used this incident to loudly and passionately speak out for gun control. In their eyes, the president is a hero for his executive orders and call for restrictions. I am glad to see the American people, for the most part, stand up and vocally defend their constitutional rights. I'm not a gun owner but I am in favor of preserving the constitution and keeping our rights intact.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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The Sandy Hook shooting stinks to high heaven, along with Aurora. The official story has changed multiple times, which many will attribute to poor reporting, however, i feel that it is beyond what could be considered honest error. Right now there is a lock-out in terms of new evidence and information entering the discussion, and the media will continue to reuse and repeat what has become the accepted narrative. There is a compiled list of several serious questions floating around that have not been addressed or that are not explained by the current narrative. I will try to find it and post it here but several of them i can remember:

1. No autopsy reports have been released regarding the shooter or the victims.
2. The motive of the shooter has not been fully explained.
3. The identity of the arrested man in fatigues has not been explained.
4. The connection the mother had with the school.
5. The location where the weapons were found and which were used.
6. Several surviving children also testified to seeing multiple shooters.
7. The source of Lanza's ability with these weapons, how was he able to carry so many firearms at once.
8. The shaky testimony of the medical examiner.
9. Lanza is categorized as having Aspergers, although Aspergers isn't a completely defined disorder or as serious as schizophrenia and the like.

Someone here may be able to chime in and shed some light on what happened. In my opinion, the Aurora incident is much more damning. There are many holes in that story. Holmes may be able to testify and give up some new information. There are aerial photographs of bloody tactical gear leading away from the rear entrance of the theater and the car Holmes was found at. Holmes was obviously drugged during the trial, and the source of his funds and technical knowledge have yet to be explained.

I think the possibility 'mind-control' is very real. It might sound like science fiction at first but it is true that there have been documented cases of government/CIA experimentation through drugs, hypnosis and trauma. Check out the death of Nicholas Deak, or the book 'Programmed to Kill' for further reading and see where it leads you.

I honestly don't believe that Lanza or Holmes were mind controlled into being the lone wolves either. I think it is more reasonable to believe that they were manipulated into being the fall guy for what would take place, with other portions being carried out by other players.

No idea about the Aurora incident. However I worked in clinical psych with autistic and brain injured patients.

They are not 'violent psychos' as Adam Lanza was portrayed by the media.

There are many unanswered questions here, and outright egregious judgments by an uneducated and ratings$$$ driven commercial media.

It is sad for parents of kids with autism and mental issues that our media's rush to judgment is all because of the almighty dollar, truth be damned.
The US media needs a complete overhaul, perhaps starting with pharmaceutical companies not dictating what "information" is produced on cnn and fox.

Good thread, op.
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