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Old 05-11-2013, 12:52 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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^^^ I'm sorry but I don't think you could be more wrong. Just a few reasons why I say that:

-Jodi was in jail for 3 YEARS before she ever started crying abuse. She ONLY resorted to the self-defense claim after it became clear to her that her previous story about ninjas was not going to fly in the courtroom.

-Jodi was stalking Travis after they broke up, and there are at least a dozen if not more people to corroborate this. Tire slashings (multiple), threatening emails to his new girlfriend, breaking into his online accounts, entering his home without permission and peeping through his windows. What abused woman would be brazen enough to do all of that???

-Jodi claims he broke her finger long before the murder, but nobody has ever come forward to say that they saw her with an injured finger until after the murder. She may have sliced a tendon while stabbing him but the "bent finger" comes and goes (mostly goes, except when she was asked to show it on the witness stand).

-Jodi chose to drive from California to Arizona "on a whim" to share CDs of her travels with this horrible abuser that she was so frightened of, who had not two weeks prior told HER that she was a sociopath. You may argue that people stay in abusive relationships, blah blah...that can sometimes be true when someone has no place else to go, shared children, no financial means, fear the abuser is going to come after them, etc. Travis wanted her to leave him alone! She didn't even live in the same state any more. Why would she put herself in harm's way?

-Jodi is a pathological liar who forges emails, letters, creates fictional characters and even lies in her personal journals. Why would you believe ANYTHING she ever says?
I didn't say Jodi isn't psycho, their relationship was abusive. She couldn't move forward. Happens every day.

 
Old 05-11-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Yeah, she couldn't move forward because she was an obsessed stalker. Travis was the only abuse victim in that relationship.
 
Old 05-11-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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Virgode, I don't believe he abused her ... yes he used her in every kinky sexual manner but she encouraged and enjoy it too. Her journals, recorded telephone conversations (she recorded) and all the text messages and IMs. She goes out into the woods searching for a tree so they can fulfill a fantasy. Yes he screwed her brains out but she loved every minute of it but he did not abuse her.

They broke up in June 2007 ... he was trying to move on but she was stalking him. Slashing his tires, peeking in his windows, hiding behind his Christmas tree to spy on him. Deanna said Travis was out of town and called & ask her to go check on Napoleon. This was after Arias and Travis broke up. Deanna got to the house, she had a key, opened the door smelled cookies. Arias was there baking cookies ... Travis out of town. That is stalking.

The crooked finger had three different stories for being that way. No one, friend or family member ever saw any bruising, cuts, injuries until the night she slaughtered Travis and when she got to Utah she had cuts on her hands.


Travis Alexander ... soar with the angels.

 
Old 05-11-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Virgode, I don't believe he abused her ... yes he used her in every kinky sexual manner but she encouraged and enjoy it too. Her journals, recorded telephone conversations (she recorded) and all the text messages and IMs. She goes out into the woods searching for a tree so they can fulfill a fantasy. Yes he screwed her brains out but she loved every minute of it but he did not abuse her.

They broke up in June 2007 ... he was trying to move on but she was stalking him. Slashing his tires, peeking in his windows, hiding behind his Christmas tree to spy on him. Deanna said Travis was out of town and called & ask her to go check on Napoleon. This was after Arias and Travis broke up. Deanna got to the house, she had a key, opened the door smelled cookies. Arias was there baking cookies ... Travis out of town. That is stalking.

The crooked finger had three different stories for being that way. No one, friend or family member ever saw any bruising, cuts, injuries until the night she slaughtered Travis and when she got to Utah she had cuts on her hands.


Travis Alexander ... soar with the angels.
Yes, this is the outcome of Domestic Violence. She may have been a willing participant, unfortunately he did play a part.
Thank You for posting this CW.
 
Old 05-11-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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As calculating as Jodi is, I absolutely believe her Travis abuse stories whether documented or not and probably two fold.
Their relationship behaviors were stuck in typical dysfunctional abuse cycle. Just my opinion though.

There was no abuse whatsoever, get that out of your mind. Jodi only came up with that story, and the pedophilia after her two first stories didn't fly. The defense has had 5 years to turn up one other woman who was in a relationship with Travis, just ONE, and they haven't found anyone at all. In fact, just the opposite..........his former girlfriends all rave about how kind and gentle he was. Yes, he was using her for sex, and that might not be very nice, but it does not make him an abuser by any stretch of the imagination. If it did, 90% of the young males in this country would be guilty of the same thing.

You are falling victim to one of the best liars we have seen since Casey Anthony.........in fact, Jodi makes Casey look like a beginner when it comes to fabricating stories. This isn't just the opinion of most of us on here, but also the jury of her peers who saw through her and agreed unanimously. No one should have any question left in their mind that she simply used every hot button she could conjure up to try to save her sorry butt.............and she hasn't given up yet.

We haven't heard the end of Jodi Arias, and you can mark my words on that.

Don
 
Old 05-11-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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Personally, Travis was an inexperienced kid, drawn to Arias for sex. I think he did abuse her, in an effort to get away from her. Hoping she would dump him. Instead, she exploited him for money, used him, and manipulated him. He was a victim.

There is a lesson here.... For many others. It is almost biblical, if Travis had followed the teachings of his religion, being chaste, he would not have been drawn into the relationship. Or, flip side, if he had even encouraged to have a normal relationship, he would not have been attracted to Arias.
 
Old 05-11-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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Yeah, she couldn't move forward because she was an obsessed stalker. Travis was the only abuse victim in that relationship.
I agree. Don't misunderstand me here....There's a dynamic at work in these relationship during and continues after the relationships are seemingly dissolved. As someone who's been in his shoes, Jodi Arias is a nightmare you read about and hope never to be in. Sadly, you have to do some self assessment and figure out how you got there.

Travis will never have that opportunity and Jodi is fully responsible. RIP Travis.
 
Old 05-11-2013, 01:30 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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There was no abuse whatsoever, get that out of your mind. Jodi only came up with that story, and the pedophilia after her two first stories didn't fly. The defense has had 5 years to turn up one other woman who was in a relationship with Travis, just ONE, and they haven't found anyone at all. In fact, just the opposite..........his former girlfriends all rave about how kind and gentle he was. Yes, he was using her for sex, and that might not be very nice, but it does not make him an abuser by any stretch of the imagination. If it did, 90% of the young males in this country would be guilty of the same thing.

You are falling victim to one of the best liars we have seen since Casey Anthony.........in fact, Jodi makes Casey look like a beginner when it comes to fabricating stories. This isn't just the opinion of most of us on here, but also the jury of her peers who saw through her and agreed unanimously. No one should have any question left in their mind that she simply used every hot button she could conjure up to try to save her sorry butt.............and she hasn't given up yet.

We haven't heard the end of Jodi Arias, and you can mark my words on that.

Don
Well, she's psycho, so on the last comment you're probably correct.
 
Old 05-11-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Personally, Travis was an inexperienced kid, drawn to Arias for sex. I think he did abuse her, in an effort to get away from her. Hoping she would dump him. Instead, she exploited him for money, used him, and manipulated him. He was a victim.

There is a lesson here.... For many others. It is almost biblical, if Travis had followed the teachings of his religion, being chaste, he would not have been drawn into the relationship. Or, flip side, if he had even encouraged to have a normal relationship, he would not have been attracted to Arias.
Absolutely...couldn't rep you.
 
Old 05-11-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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Can you imagine if during the Anthony trial, people tried to blame Caylee for what her mother did...of course, nobody would ever do that because she was a helpless toddler. But because Travis was a man, it's ok for people to speculate with zero evidence that he was abusive and somehow had it coming to him? Sorry, men aren't always the abusers in the relationship. Alyce LaViolette's career has been destroyed now because of her extreme bias, choosing to believe a woman who pulled these stories out of thin air, three years after her arrest.
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