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Old 05-11-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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I have a question for anyone who wants to weigh in.
There was no evidence to indicate that TA abused JA. It does not matter what my opinion is - there was simply no proof of it. There was also no proof that he was a pedophile.

BUT, if there had been some indication that he had in one or more occasions used physical force ( ie, hitting, punching , slapping but not a documented threat to her life), or if TA actually had photos (not child porn) of children in his possession, would you or would you not still support the first degree murder charge for Jodi?

I certainly would! It was proven that she planned for the attack, did more then simply protect herself from a supposed attack, attempted to cover her tracks and lied to protect herself. Whether he was abusive or not, or whether he was a pedophile was never relevant.
I agree, it's still first degree because of the premeditation and the level of overkill. There was a case in Texas a few years ago, Susan Wright...she tied her husband to their bed, stabbed him close to 200 times and buried him in the backyard. She also claimed she was abused and "in a fog," but the jury still convicted her of first degree murder. Now, she actually had witnesses who could verify that the husband had a violent temper and an ex-girlfriend that said he had abused her too. She also cried actual tears in court, unlike JA. But regardless how much of the abuse story was true, that isn't a pass to stab someone dozens of times when they are no longer a threat. And of course, we only hear the murderer's side of the story because the victim cannot be in court to defend himself.

 
Old 05-11-2013, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Had she merely shot him, it would have been a different trial.

Had she stabbed him once, it would have been a different trial.

Had she punched him, ran from the house, banged on the neighbor's door and begged for them to call 911, it would have been a different trial.

But that's not what happened.

She shot him, stabbed him 27 times, slit his throat from ear to ear and left him there. No one knew until four days later that he was dead.

That is NOT self defense.

Agreed... not even close to being self defense.

27 stab wounds, a slit throat... AND a gunshot? Was she not sure he was dead?

It looked like a slam dunk murder conviction from the start... but so did OJ and Casey Anthony. I'm glad the jury got this one right.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I have a question: so is the next hearing still scheduled for the 15th? This is just bizarre. I don't remember any court case in history where the defendant had a news conference 15 minutes after their conviction. It makes me wonder if the defense was not behind this to begin with. It's crazy I know but how did the conference come about? It will never happen but the news stations should just pack up and leave and not give that weirdo one more minute of air time. She thrives on it. I just can't wait for her to fade away and rot in prison forever.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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I doubt Travis was abusive and I believe Arias knew who she really was. I'm glad she's found guilty and hope she gets the right sentence.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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That whole news conference thing after the verdict was very bizarre. How is Jodi getting special treatment by the guards to allow her to have a conference that she set up ? Normally a person is ushered straight back to jail in cuffs after a guilty verdict (remember Dr. Conrad Murray from the Michael Jackson death trial.......they put cuffs on him right at the defense table to took him away). Yet they allowed JA to leave the courtroom without cuffs and then sit down with a reporter.......that is all very unusual.

I'm like everyone else, I just want to see her sentenced and then fade into obscurity. We've seen enough of her and her antics now it is time for her to just go away.

Don
 
Old 05-12-2013, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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I guess the media is the new Travis. Before she wanted to be Travis' wife, now she wants to be famous. She is gonna be stocking the media until the last minute of her life.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 09:02 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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That whole news conference thing after the verdict was very bizarre. How is Jodi getting special treatment by the guards to allow her to have a conference that she set up ? Normally a person is ushered straight back to jail in cuffs after a guilty verdict (remember Dr. Conrad Murray from the Michael Jackson death trial.......they put cuffs on him right at the defense table to took him away). Yet they allowed JA to leave the courtroom without cuffs and then sit down with a reporter.......that is all very unusual.

I'm like everyone else, I just want to see her sentenced and then fade into obscurity. We've seen enough of her and her antics now it is time for her to just go away.

Don
Its a very high profile case that people want to hear about, read about and talk about. With coverage brings viewers. Sad huh?
 
Old 05-12-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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Jodi's demeanor and attitude did not help her much.

There was a show, last night on CNN, with a re cap of the entire trial, and interviews with Jodi, she is cold.
 
Old 05-12-2013, 09:52 AM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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Well, she's psycho, so on the last comment you're probably correct.
The sad thing is that in Travis' last blog post written less than a month before he was murdered he wrote while contemplating relationships. Remember, this was written after he broke up with Jodi:

Not to ask some one on a date because I planned on marrying them, but to date someone to look for the possibility of marriage with them. This type of dating to me is like a very long job interview and can be exponentially more mentally taxing. Desperately trying to find out if my date has an axe murderer penned up inside of her and knowing she is wondering the same thing about me. That’s usually when I think myself into a panic and start acting weird in consequence to trying so hard to act normal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UyfUTacziI


 
Old 05-12-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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@Snowchaser & Don1945 ... This is how Troy Hayden with Fox Phoenix got the exclusive:

Troy explains how he got the Jodi Arias exclusive

In the article:

"Later, we talked out in the open, off-camera, and she told me some things she asked me to keep off the record. I said I would.

After about 45 minutes, as I got up to walk away, she shook my hand and said if I kept her comments off the record she would give me an interview when the trial was over."


I just wonder what kind of lies Arias told him that was off the record??? Willmott and Nurmi both were aware of the interview.

I sent Troy Hayden and Fox News a Tweet ... I know every reporter wanted that first interview. But Hayden was used, abused and manipulated by Arias.

It amazed me the authorities would allow an in the basement interview like that.
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