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Originally Posted by virgode
Exactly.
Who introduced who to the sexual style they engaged in doesn't really matter. "She liked it"... "He was using her for sex", or "none of his other girlfriends had anything bad to say" aren't excuses for his actions and behaviors.
The fact is he did engage with her and continued a sexual relationship after the break up. Big mistake!!
You simply can't send mixed messages with the disturbed.
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And therein lies the problem! For a detached outsider, any sex can be seen as an excuse for something, can't it? Some of us like to think we are the saint and everyone else is the sinner, but that's not the truth.
It is always hard to any young man, no matter how moral he is, to pass up hot sex freely offered by a good looking young woman. Good sex has prolonged more than one very bad relationship, that's for sure. Excuses only come after the sex for both men and women.
This is especially true when couples are breaking up. When a couple is breaking up, as often as not there is a lot of sex during the breakup, especially if one partner is trying to leave and the other is trying to keep the other.
Discovering a person's partner is deeply disturbed is difficult for lots of people. Love makes us all blind to a partner's faults, and sex is a perfect mask for someone who has a well hidden dark side.
Past love and affection can also confuse a person who clearly understands their partner is no good for them. It can make anyone want to give things one last chance.
Emotion will trump clear thinking every time when people get naked and both want the same thing, but once the heat of passion dies down, a failed relationship remains a failure.
Heartbreak is a given, and we all learn how to cope with that, but very few of us are prepared well against sudden violence. We seldom know we are sending mixed messages to potential killers.
It's also one thing when there are several hundred miles between a couple who is breaking up, and it's entirely another thing when one shows up at the other's doorstep.
People like Jodi Arias are rare. Very rare. Travis Alexander understood breaking up brings anger, bitterness and sadness- he had been through some breakups. We all have at his age. But he had never been involved with a potentially lethal partner- how many of us are?
As a fit and confident young man, the thought that Jodi might kill him probably never crossed his mind. After all, jealousy and possessiveness is common in breakups, but death is not. I'm sure Travis thought he could handle Jodi right up to the moment she first stabbed him. Jodi probably though she had handled Travis too, until something he said and/or did right after their sex fired up the rage she brought with her.
I am absolutely positive she never meant to stab Travis. I am absolutely sure she planned to shoot him unless she was satisfied she had won him back.
A person's lies are always based on the truth. Jodi could make up a lie about finding the gun in Travis' closet, because that was a twist on the truth of her bringing a gun, but she never planned to stab him; that was spontaneous, and she could not make up a lie to when, where and how she got the knife and went to work with it. That is why she could say nothing at all about those moments.
But she did give us clues as to how it happened: she said Travis became angry in the shower and body slammed her. That's entirely possible. It's also possible he only gave her a slight push and yelled at her, and she conflated it into something more violent. Either was enough to trigger the rage.
She said she remembered Travis on his hands and knees in two of the big lies she told to the cops and 48 Hours. That's most likely true as well. By the time she fetched the knife, he was either still showering or just out, and most likely had his back to her at the time of the first blow. Falling to his hands and knees is completely understandable.
Everything after that becomes very fuzzy in her testimony. Travis probably tried to take the knife away if he wasn't so injured and still had strength to do so. He may have still been strong enough to escape the bathroom and stagger down the hall to the bedroom, with Jodi stabbing him all the way.
We will never know until she gives us the full story, and she probably will never do that. She may not be able to recall the sequence of events with any clarity now.
What is sure to me is the use of her pistol. She came intending to use it if she thought she had lost him, and she did. That, not the stabbing and slashing, was the moment she killed Travis in her mind. That he was already dead never occurred to her. Her memory was very clear about shooting the pistol.
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. I hope on your path of recovery happier days are ahead for you. 
I also heard a rumor that Patty showed up to court in Daisy Dukes, and does not want to be shown on camera (though she's already appeared on Nancy Grace and Dateline...so who knows). Nurmi was at the jail today to pick up their scripts from JA, presumably.
I've got to go over to that "Jodi Arias is Innocent" site and snoop a little , it is always good for a laugh or two.