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Old 05-28-2013, 11:13 PM
 
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Does anybody remember the 1997 movie "Wag the Dog"? Robert De Niro played a spin doctor teamed with Dustin Hoffman as a Hollywood Producer. In order to distract the electorial weeks before an election, De Niro and Hoffman bring in a series of specialists, as well as a few criminally insane, to create on the media a fake war with Albany.

My point is that I don't think we'll ever know how things really went down, I hope we haven't all been duped by HLN.



And for, the record,I don't think Jodi is innocent. As I said back in the beginning of Jan. 2013, I think Jodi is a sociopath and locking her up for Life without Parole is a just and effective method of protecting society from her.

 
Old 05-28-2013, 11:28 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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I don't know how many room mates TA had, but a couple of weeks ago, one guy was on one of the HLN shows (from which I am detoxing, been taking a break since Thursday LOL), one of the room mates was asked about both the discovery and smell issue.

He said the house was over 4000 sq ft, and TA's room was quite large w/ the bathroom and closet area on one end of the house. He claims he was in and out of the house, and didn't smell anything. Make of that what you will.

He also said TA was supposed to leave for Cancun and be gone for several days, so they had no reason to wonder why he had not been seen.

However, he wasn't asked about TA's car still being there...or sightings of JA's rental.

In terms of accomplices, I don't have any trouble believing she acted alone. TA was unsuspecting, & in the shower on a slick surface. The first stab wound was in the back, so she had the element of surprise on her side.

Add rage (at being rejected) to that and I can see how she could have inflicted all those wounds. Given how short a period of time it was, the rage must been something else.
The square footage explains why roommates hadn't noticed or detected an odor, I guess they respected each others privacy.

The trip to Cancun may have been planned for a later date? You'd think she'd contact a roommate wondering why she hadn't heard from him or he couldn't be reached? Who knows what she could have been thinking.
I'm wondering if she knew TA and JA still had a relationship?
 
Old 05-29-2013, 12:10 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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To clarify "she", this was posted earlier in the thread. She would be Mimi.

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I would imagine when she arrived at 4:30 AM or there about they chatted about the Cancun trip he planned with Mimi ... then the nap and Arias probably mentioned the trip until she finally realized he was taking Mimi not her to Cancun ... Arias knew Travis always took a shower after sex ... like Juan said Travis was wet, naked and vulnerable.
I found this as well, could be the answer? Not sure what to believe.

Yes I did watch her testify, I am saying that the one I posted the pic of (Maria Avila) did have a consensual relationship w Travis, Mimi was not interested.
Who is Travis likely to pick? Of course a girl he is knocking boots with over one who has no interest, sure he probably used Cancun as bait!

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Old 05-29-2013, 12:58 AM
 
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This is why I still think she didn't act alone. Stabbed him ~ 30x, then dragged him back to the shower, and stuffed him into the shower, in a nice, neat sitting position? It simply doesn't add up

So, why doesn't she implicate her accomplists? Well, that would blow her claim that it was not pre-meditated.

A few other questions:

I understood Travis was sharing that house with a few others. where were the roomates during the murder? where are they now, and why don't we hear anything about them, or from them? Could they have been involved?

Also, what about that theory that you could see the attacker(s) in the photo of Travis' eyes? The reflection supposedly showed more than one person. What happened to that theory?

I haven't been watching the JA trial continously since day one, so I may not be up-to-date on all the information.
Arias was on the stand 18 days ... if she had accomplices that would have been the FIRST thing out of her mouth. She is always the victim ... Bobby Juarez cheated on her ... Matt M. cheated on her ... her dad was mean ... her mom beat her with a wooden spoon ... her mom and dad loved the baby sister best ... poor poor Arias. All she did was lie and she would hang anyone out to dry if they were with her in that bathroom. Of course she did try the ninja lie ... and another lie before she admitted she slaughtered Travis.

The roommates were all accounted for.

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To clarify "she", this was posted earlier in the thread. She would be Mimi.
Nope you are wrong SHE IS ARIAS arrived at Travis Alexander's home around 4:30 AM ... SHE WAS ARIAS on the day she slaughtered him, June 4, 2008. ARIAS drove all night, stealth mode when she hit Arizona, ARIAS had Travis security code number for his garage and walked right in.

Mimi wasn't anywhere near Travis Alexander's home on June 4, 2008 when ARIAS arrived around 4:30 AM.

Not Mimi ... Mimi arrived at Travis' to check June 9th and confirm the Cancun trip since she hadn't been able to get in touch with him ... she made the 911 call along with one of his roommates, her friend Michell. Mimi didn't go into the room or bathroom.

Here is Mimi, rooommate and Michelle's 911 call:

Travis Alexander Murder: 911 Call | Video - ABC News

What gets me ... ARIAS stabs Travis twenty however many times, slashed his throat from ear to ear and shoots him ... then does the "whistle while I clean up" ... you know the Snow White song .... and then gets in her car and drives to Utah ... moving right along here ... gonna find me a man and hops in bed with or the sack/bag and gets him off.

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Old 05-29-2013, 02:23 AM
 
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To clarify "she", this was posted earlier in the thread. She would be Mimi.



I found this as well, could be the answer? Not sure what to believe.

Yes I did watch her testify, I am saying that the one I posted the pic of (Maria Avila) did have a consensual relationship w Travis, Mimi was not interested.
Who is Travis likely to pick? Of course a girl he is knocking boots with over one who has no interest, sure he probably used Cancun as bait!
Maybe Jodi was not the only one with a personality disorder. Of course Mimi didn't know these two were still having sex, just like the other ex girlfriend he cheated on. She just knew Travis' version not the real version. He shared that with her just in case Jodi showed up but he didn't really feel threaten by Jodi.
 
Old 05-29-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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What most of us probably find most disturbing about Jodi is her complete lack of normal human emotions. Even in that initial police interrogation she was as cold and unemotional as if she were talking about what she had for breakfast that morning. Any normal person, whose previous lover had been murdered, would be falling apart, I would think. But not Jodi, she looked like she was in there for a job interview and seemed to be enjoying it. She is like a giddy 16 year old talking about the school dance.

Dr. Drew, like him or not, is a trained, experienced mental health professional, and yet he even had trouble getting his head around Jodi Arias. That is one of the things that keeps us all glued to this case, none of it really adds up to us. We keep expecting to get a reasonable answer as to how and why this thing happened, and it is apparent Jodi will go to her grave without ever telling the real story.

Don
 
Old 05-29-2013, 09:42 AM
 
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Don, I agree with Jodi and emotions.

Did you see how she appeared after the jury could not render a unanimous verdict? It looked like she was just copying the emotions of most of the people in the courtroom; the sad look, as if she was appalled that there was no verdict.

If I was Jodi, I would have been happy about the indecision. It would mean that some people held out for life for me; that I would not be going to death row; that I'd have a few more shots to be in the spotlight.

Her reaction was totally freaky. If you didn't see it, you should. This woman is hollow inside.
 
Old 05-29-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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Don, I agree with Jodi and emotions.

Did you see how she appeared after the jury could not render a unanimous verdict? It looked like she was just copying the emotions of most of the people in the courtroom; the sad look, as if she was appalled that there was no verdict.

If I was Jodi, I would have been happy about the indecision. It would mean that some people held out for life for me; that I would not be going to death row; that I'd have a few more shots to be in the spotlight.

Her reaction was totally freaky. If you didn't see it, you should. This woman is hollow inside.
I agree about her lack of normal emotion. I think she has the characteristics of a psychopath.

The thing is, I wonder what makes someone a psychopath. From what I've read, many psychopaths do indeed come from an abusive and troubled background, but there are those like Ted Bundy or Jodi Arias that don't. It almost seems like a brain disorder or abnormality, in which case should we have some compassion for someone if they have become a psychopath?
 
Old 05-29-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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I will never believe anyone participated in the killing other than Jodi. You could count her friends on one hand, with fingers left to spare. Nobody else liked her. Matt McCartney may have helped her write the pedo letters after the fact, but I do not believe he knew anything beforehand. Certainly the detectives checked the whereabouts of Matt and Darryl on June 4, and the only DNA at the crime scene was Jodi's. It just doesn't make sense that anyone else would have an interest in harming Travis. But one can find all kinds of conspiracy theories on the website that shall not be named...some lunatics over there even suggested that Travis slit his own throat.
Of course not, the trial is over, all the facts and statements have been exhaustively considered...it's a bit too late for alternative and conspiracy theories on the murder. Maybe 3 years ago, but not now.
And of course, if there was another participant you can pretty much guarantee that Arias would have sold him or her out long ago.
 
Old 05-29-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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One thing I think is pertinent to Arias, and food for thought, is that some people are wired completely different, and she is a criminal, a dangerous one. And not particularly smart. Think about other cases,
Where children came up mismissing or dead, and no one could identify the killers.

People like this exist in our world, and we can not put normal behavior on how these people act. She brutally killed a man, and went on like normal. It is beyond creepy scary.
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