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Old 04-05-2013, 03:53 AM
 
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"Obsessed?" She's given up months of her life for this trial, she has as much right to be there as any other member of the public as long as she does not speak to the other jurors.
I get that. But, since she has been kicked off because of speaking to the other jurors...that is a moot point. She could watch it at home like everyone else. She is likely in it for the creds now, Book deal??
Juror #5...The Jodi Arias Case. I'd read it...Thoughts??

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Old 04-05-2013, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Juror 5 evidently was some sort of loose cannon if they found cause to kick her off. She does look a little odd with that hairdo, and for her to come back as a spectator is just her being vindictive IMO. Something happened because that rarely happens unless the person really screwed up.

Book deal ? Yep, probably, but not sure how much of an audience there would be. This thing has been beat to death by the TV shows so much I actually turn it off after a few minutes any more. All they keep doing is rehashing old stuff over and over, and then creating new shows around it. It is way out of control.

Fill me in, how did the roommate's story change ? I missed that part.

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Old 04-05-2013, 06:48 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Did anyone ever come up with a reason for the shoe prints at the crime scene...or is that just being dropped entirely. I still wonder about that. And, I wonder about the room mate having changed his story to the police. Any insights.
I think the shoe print just came from Jodi walking around. I know she only had socks on during the murder, but she most likely put shoes on before leaving the house. Making a last sweep of the crime scene, maybe?
 
Old 04-05-2013, 07:10 AM
 
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Okay, let me wrap my head around this..a juror kicked off...number five, comes back to court as a spectator?! Does she have a life? A job? Crazy.

I do think Martinez needs to tone it down.

A side note, my opinion is that our judicial system has not benefited since the introduction of cameras in the court room. Perhaps a subject on it's own.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I do think Martinez needs to tone it down.
Jasper,

This expert has pretty much trashed dead Travis. Perhaps Travis deserved it? But; I would much rather hear that evidence first hand from past girlfriends and friends. The expert is being paid she has a vested interest in her credibility. The reputation of the dead is at stake and we should get our facts correct. If the prosecutor is hard on her and it is shown that her diagnosis was not correct; then he will be justified.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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I would much rather hear that evidence first hand from past girlfriends and friends.
Me too. But I think there are reasons that both sides haven't called his past girlfriends. Their testmonies may not help either side. The crux of the matter is that the victim didn't derserve to be killed. He has issues with woman. Like some of his girlfriends, a normal person, for the sake of self respect and preserve, would choose to walkway. But for whatever reason, Jodi Arias is not a normal person.

And I do think lying is a form of abuse, abuse of trust. Depends on what type of lies, the degree of abuse varies.

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Old 04-05-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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Me too. But I think there are reasons that both sides haven't called his past girlfriends. Their testmonies may not help either side. The crux of the matter is that the victim didn't derserve to be killed. He has issues with woman. Like some of his girlfriends, a normal person, for the sake of self respect and preserve, would choose to walkway. But for whatever reason, Jodi Arias is not a normal person.

And I do think lying is a form of abuse, abuse of trust. Depends on what type of lies, the degree of abuse varies.
But they had Alyce testify to what one of the girlfriends experienced, based on her interview with the young woman. Why didn't they just compel the girlfriend to testify rather than having all these "hearsay" objections and coyly worded questions to avoid the objection? The testimony would have a lot more impact coming from the girl who actually experienced it, too.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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Okay, let me wrap my head around this..a juror kicked off...number five, comes back to court as a spectator?! Does she have a life? A job? Crazy.

I do think Martinez needs to tone it down.

A side note, my opinion is that our judicial system has not benefited since the introduction of cameras in the court room. Perhaps a subject on it's own.
I love seeing the courtroom parts on the true crime shows like 48 hours and Dateline. It's probably good to have a video record, but without the circus part.

It might be a good idea to at least bar airing of the video until the trial is over.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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Old 04-05-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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I think the shoe print just came from Jodi walking around. I know she only had socks on during the murder, but she most likely put shoes on before leaving the house. Making a last sweep of the crime scene, maybe?
The police/prosecution should have been able to clear that up. Based on the size of the print, they should have been able to say it was consistent or not consistent with a shoe Jodi may have been wearing. From what I've heard they did not do that, and instead they left a huge loose end flapping out there. If I was a juror, I'm not sure I could ignore that.
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