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It does make you wonder doesn't it? I heard the voicemail message and it's hard not to think she was telling the truth regarding that.
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Originally Posted by Sugah Ray
No he didn't deserve to die. Most people don't deserve to die young. However he put himself in harm's way. Anyone treating another human in such undignified way is asking for trouble.
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I will be the first to admit I find Travis to be a hypocrite.
Jodi deserves the death penalty. She is scary.
Absolutely. Crazy woman. I also think he put himself in harm's way however.
Here we go again. The victim is dead, he's not the one on trial and he cannot defend himself. The psychopathic murderer planned for years to drag Travis, his friends and family and the Mormon Church if she didn't get her way (pleading out to 2nd degree murder) with her lies and fabrications. Jodi is probably so proud of herself to know that some people are still gullible enough to believe her, even though the jury has spoken and they saw right through all the smoke and mirrors.
Who is to say she didn't encourage the 12 year old stuff? She was obviously talking with a baby voice on purpose, and she kept telling him to repeat anything that she thought might sound like she could turn it into something incriminating. I've said this a few times, but if you can't tell the difference between someone saying "sounds like a 12 year old" to a consenting adult woman during sexual roleplay and someone actually lusting after a 12 year old, you know nothing about pedophilia.
Jodi's goal now is to keep on "killing" Travis for eternity. That's why the Death Penalty is so appropriate in this case. She isn't going to ever let him rest in peace. That tv interview should be the first clue that this woman is as vindictive and plain evil as they come.
edit - I just have one more thing to say about the pedophilia allegations. If he really was attracted to young girls or boys...WHY would he have continued to engage in sex with this adult lunatic? You can't have it both ways.
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You are wrong ... not one person that has posted here during this trial has condoned the language Travis used nor the language Arias used either. You just joined in April ... check the date this post started ... in January. Are you a member of Jodie Is Innocent website?
I know, I totally sound like I think she is innocent, and most likely the main blogger on that website, let me quote myself to prove your point:
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Originally Posted by Sugah Ray
Jodi is a psychopath, a cold blooded murderer and a manipulator. When people call her a *****, they are making the wrong association and just being misogynistic.
I saw an on-camera interview with Joe Arpaio (sp) about why he allowed this interview after the verdict.
His answer was they have a very open door policy about interviews with the media, and if a prisoner complies with the rules (filling out various forms, etc), they allow them to take place. He implied that Jodi was not treated any differently in this regard.
Of course, he loves the camera though, so I am sure on some level he LIKED the idea that she was doing this interview.
Thank you, I missed that. You are probably right about Sheriff Joe, lol.
Here we go again. The victim is dead, he's not the one on trial and he cannot defend himself. The psychopathic murderer planned for years to drag Travis, his friends and family and the Mormon Church if she didn't get her way (pleading out to 2nd degree murder) with her lies and fabrications. Jodi is probably so proud of herself to know that some people are still gullible enough to believe her, even though the jury has spoken and they saw right through all the smoke and mirrors.
Who is to say she didn't encourage the 12 year old stuff? She was obviously talking with a baby voice on purpose, and she kept telling him to repeat anything that she thought might sound like she could turn it into something incriminating. I've said this a few times, but if you can't tell the difference between someone saying "sounds like a 12 year old" to a consenting adult woman during sexual roleplay and someone actually lusting after a 12 year old, you know nothing about pedophilia.
Of course she planned to destroy his character and she has zero credibility but we are talking about recordings and text messages not Jodi's fabrications.
This is my opinion and I know many of you won't like it but this is a public forum so put me on ignore if it bothers you:
About the 12 year old comment, I think it was wrong but based on their sexual behavior I don't think it surprises me. Travis and Jodi both equated sex with violence and degradation. They were victims of pornography violence and it seems no one taught them to have healthy sexual relationships. She allowed the name calling and probably sexual practices that made her feel degraded (that part I can believe) He was having sex with a woman who was stocking him and already showing violent behavior by slashing his tires. He thought she was evil and yet had sex with her. Why? because he thought violence was hot.
Pornography's main components are violence and degradation of women. It eventually escalates to dangerous territory just like any other addiction because the addicts want more violence and more bizzarre behavior. Unfortunately things like rough sex where women's bodies are hurt, paid sex like strippers and escorts and porno are becoming an every day thing and acceptable. Even religious people take a break from their church because they feel that is what everybody else is doing in America. Consent and Love has been replaced by violence and manipulation. Men are getting confused and excited by violence while women are feeling degraded and humiliated. It's a recipe for disaster and trust me I am not religious at all.
I will be the first to admit I find Travis to be a hypocrite. And it is obvious to me, Jodi was good enough to sleep with, but he did not consider her good enough to marry.
If this is the standard, probably 96% of the men in this world at one time has walked in his shoes.
How many women have used SEX to keep a man tied to her? Probably just as many.
Sex can be a powerful tool used by both men and women. Women like Jodi use it on men like an addictive drug when they have nothing more to offer. Men are willing to accept that drug and put up with the crap until it gets very bad.
Of course she planned to destroy his character and she has zero credibility but we are talking about recordings and text messages not Jodi's fabrications.
This is my opinion and I know many of you won't like it but this is a public forum so put me on ignore if it bothers you:
About the 12 year old comment, I think it was wrong but based on their sexual behavior I don't think it surprises me. Travis and Jodi both equated sex with violence and degradation. They were victims of pornography violence and it seems no one taught them to have healthy sexual relationships. She allowed the name calling and probably sexual practices that made her feel degraded (that part I can believe) He was having sex with a woman who was stocking him and already showing violent behavior by slashing his tires. He thought she was evil and yet had sex with her. Why? because he thought violence was hot.
Have you watched all of the trial? Did you hear the forensic computer expert say that Travis's computer was one of the cleanest he'd ever seen? There was NO pornography found anywhere on the pc, no history of porn websites that he had looked at, no photos or magazines anywhere in his house.
How do you know he thought "violence was hot"? Can you read the mind of a dead man you never met? I have no issues with anyone sharing an opinion, but there are many posts here (not necessarily yours) from people who only know bits and pieces of the story and jump to conclusions based on a soundbite. All we know about their sex life is what is contained in text messages and a phone call she secretly taped. There is a big, big difference between fantasy talk and actually doing all of those things (getting tied to a tree, etc.) How often are we privy to someone else's private sex conversations? I don't think they were any different from most young people today...whether you personally think that kind of talk is ok or not, it is absolutely common and downright tame compared to a lot of what you can find online.
Luckily only Dr. Phil only gets to describe what is a "Normal" sexual relationship. As long as there are no kids or animals involved, who cares.
That is exactly why I want Sugah Ray to clarify the statement in the post:
@Sugah Ray ... Please define a healthy sexual relationship. Not porno nor violence or name calling but a healthy sexual relationship.
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