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Old 03-20-2013, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Sandra Layne trial: Grandmother, 75, convicted of second-degree murder in fatal shooting of teenage grandson | Mail Online

I really feel sorry for her, and her daughter calling her a monster....pot calling the kettle black
Why would you leave a troubled teen with his elderly grand parents while you sort out your life...jmo
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Old 03-22-2013, 03:52 PM
 
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Why do you feel sorry for her? She shot him six times. She had no injuries. If it was really self defense all she would have had to do was subdue him. Yet she was still shooting while the kid was on the phone with 911!
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:24 PM
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^^ I second that. Why do you -OP- feel sorry for her? Not only did she shoot him 6 times, she shot him over the course of 6 minutes! She IS a monster, a mentally unstable monster. Sure the parents shouldn't have left their son with his elderly grandparents, but I don't think they thought for a minute that their son would end up dead at the hands of his grandmother. This pisses me off.

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Old 03-25-2013, 07:56 AM
 
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She is in her mid seventies, how does a tiny woman of 75 subdue a teen? It was said he kicked her in stomach because she would not hand over money and her car to him...he wanted to flee because he failed a drug test.

I think she was scared so she freaked and over reacted.
Putting her in prison for the rest of her life which in this case, 14 years amounts too serves no purpose.
She has to live with this and my opinion that's punishment enough.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:35 AM
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She is in her mid seventies, how does a tiny woman of 75 subdue a teen? It was said he kicked her in stomach because she would not hand over money and her car to him...he wanted to flee because he failed a drug test.

I think she was scared so she freaked and over reacted.
Putting her in prison for the rest of her life which in this case, 14 years amounts too serves no purpose.
She has to live with this and my opinion that's punishment enough.
So, in your opinion, since she is 75 years old (old enough to know better) it is okay to commit murder and not have to pay for it. Do you also believe anyone 75 and older gets a free pass for murder? Tell us, what is the cut-off age for you? Can a 70-65-60 year old kill someone and get away with it? What about all the the other murderers in prison? Why are you twisting the fact that she murdered her grandson into a story about how old she is?

She was examined at the hospital and no injuries were found on her. That is according to the article you posted. So no kick in the stomach is probably a safe bet. Plus, if she was afraid of him why didn't she call 911? She didn't even call 911 to help her grandson after she shot him six times in six minutes!

I imagine she was scared and she definitely over reacted, but if everyone went around murdering people because they are scared well, there would be a whole lot of dead people laying around.

What she should have done is watch him steal her car and money. Then she should have called the police, report it all stolen and have him arrested. After that she should have called his parents to come to Michigan and deal with their son by taking him to wherever they can to get him help and making it clear to the parents that he was no longer welcome in the grandparents home. She would have saved his life instead of taking his life.

Putting her in prison does indeed serve a purpose. Of course she has to live with what she did and so do tons of other murderers serving their time in prison. So, no, it is not punishment enough for her to not go to prison.

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Old 03-25-2013, 10:08 AM
 
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So, in your opinion, since she is 75 years old (old enough to know better) it is okay to commit murder and not have to pay for it. Do you also believe anyone 75 and older gets a free pass for murder? Tell us, what is the cut-off age for you? Can a 70-65-60 year old kill someone and get away with it? What about all the the other murderers in prison? Why are you twisting the fact that she murdered her grandson into a story about how old she is?

She was examined at the hospital and no injuries were found on her. That is according to the article you posted. So no kick in the stomach is probably a safe bet. Plus, if she was afraid of him why didn't she call 911? She didn't even call 911 to help her grandson after she shot him six times in six minutes!

I imagine she was scared and she definitely over reacted, but if everyone went around murdering people because they are scared well, there would be a whole lot of dead people laying around.

What she should have done is watch him steal her car and money. Then she should have called the police, report it all stolen and have him arrested. After that she should have called his parents to come to Michigan and deal with their son by taking him to wherever they can to get him help and making it clear to the parents that he was no longer welcome in the grandparents home. She would have saved his life instead of taking his life.

Putting her in prison does indeed serve a purpose. Of course she has to live with what she did and so do tons of other murderers serving their time in prison. So, no, it is not punishment enough for her to not go to prison.
I agree..but I just have a nagging feeling there is more background to this story than what came out at trial...just a nagging feeling
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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Where was grandpa Fred when all this was going on?
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:55 AM
 
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Where was grandpa Fred when all this was going on?
Don't know but he is 87
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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Bear in mind that the kid was on that synthetic pot filth. The level of violence you see in people like that is completely terrifying -- if they're not trying to kill themselves they're coming after someone else. The problem I see is that instead of locking herself in a room and calling the police, she reached for a gun.

It's very common to have kids living with their grandparents -- a lot pof adults are in no position to be raising kids -- it might have been very much the best idea depending on the situation.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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She is in her mid seventies, how does a tiny woman of 75 subdue a teen? It was said he kicked her in stomach because she would not hand over money and her car to him...he wanted to flee because he failed a drug test.

I think she was scared so she freaked and over reacted.
Putting her in prison for the rest of her life which in this case, 14 years amounts too serves no purpose.
She has to live with this and my opinion that's punishment enough.
Once he was wounded and was on the phone with 911, she had ample opportunity to leave the room. I feel she finished him off because she didn't want him talking to police about what prompted the incident. I think it's ridiculous to say she shouldn't have to serve any time. I don't believe that being of a certain age or claiming self defense gives anyone carte blanche to shoot an unarmed person six times.
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