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Old 06-19-2013, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Australia
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Sterotypes from the days of seedy red light district erotic massage parlors Some idiot will read this and think every accredited massage therapist is sex therapy.

Maybe thats the new title escorts should use 'sex therapists'.
I'm not saying that all/most massage therapists offer sex but it is very common for certain massage parlours to function as brothels. Happy endings do happen.
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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I'm not saying that all/most massage therapists offer sex but it is very common for certain massage parlours to function as brothels. Happy endings do happen.

I'm sure it happens, not 'often' as the your post states. I feel sorry for any reputable therapeutic MT living with stigma of the stereotype.
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Old 06-19-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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The only reason escorts and escort agencies can legally work in the US despite of anti-prostitution laws if because they advertise that they ONLY sell time. Obviously it is just a cover for prostitution and sex does happen a lot of the time but technically the escort didn't do anything wrong.

Everyone knows that "happy endings" (handjobs) often happen in massage parlors under the table but if a man shot and killed a massage therapists for not giving him a handjob would you think that was right?
Yes they advertise they only sell time but everyone knows they are buying sex. No one said Eliot Spitzer you only bought time from those escorts so you can stay in office, there is nothing wrong with just buying time from a scantly clad dressed women for good conversation

Escort is just a cover for prostitution. The escort robbed him by not giving him sex and taking his money. He was clearly lead to believe he would have gotten sex. If she said I am just hear to talk he probably would have just ordered her to leave and called the next number in the phone book.

"According to his testimony, Gilbert agreed to pay the woman $150 to come over to his home and have sex with him, after he contacted her on Craigslist, and when she attempted to leave his home without making good on her end of the bargain, Gilbert shot her in the neck"

Read more: A Texas Man Who Shot An Escort Was Found Not Guilty For It

This sounds like the truth, she tried to rob the guy of what he paid for. The thing the escort did wrong besides presenting herself as a prostitute (he is wrong on this one too but they are equally wrong actors here so no point of grinding it in) is that she tried to STEAL from him, a felony which is one of the few in Texas you can shoot someone for (along with rape and attempted murder).

Those asian massage parlors open late at 2 am at night. Well if you paid your money and they refused to give you what you paid for its theft and you could theroretically be entitled to shoot them. The big mistake the escort made was going to his house. You see because she came onto his property, took his property (money) and tried to leave his property without rendering the service. This is theft plain and simple. A prostitute cannot steal from her clients. Its tantamount to a drug dealer robbing you.
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Those asian massage parlors open late at 2 am at night. Well if you paid your money and they refused to give you what you paid for its theft and you could theroretically be entitled to shoot them. The big mistake the escort made was going to his house. You see because she came onto his property, took his property (money) and tried to leave his property without rendering the service. This is theft plain and simple. A prostitute cannot steal from her clients. Its tantamount to a drug dealer robbing you.
Would you just as easily said African American or Hispanic or Indian or any other racial group? MOD CUT

Last edited by jasper12; 06-19-2013 at 07:37 PM.. Reason: No name calling...thanks.
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:40 PM
 
Location: In the sticks, SC
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Yes they advertise they only sell time but everyone knows they are buying sex. No one said Eliot Spitzer you only bought time from those escorts so you can stay in office, there is nothing wrong with just buying time from a scantly clad dressed women for good conversation

Escort is just a cover for prostitution. The escort robbed him by not giving him sex and taking his money. He was clearly lead to believe he would have gotten sex. If she said I am just hear to talk he probably would have just ordered her to leave and called the next number in the phone book.

"According to his testimony, Gilbert agreed to pay the woman $150 to come over to his home and have sex with him, after he contacted her on Craigslist, and when she attempted to leave his home without making good on her end of the bargain, Gilbert shot her in the neck"

Read more: A Texas Man Who Shot An Escort Was Found Not Guilty For It

This sounds like the truth, she tried to rob the guy of what he paid for. The thing the escort did wrong besides presenting herself as a prostitute (he is wrong on this one too but they are equally wrong actors here so no point of grinding it in) is that she tried to STEAL from him, a felony which is one of the few in Texas you can shoot someone for (along with rape and attempted murder).

Those asian massage parlors open late at 2 am at night. Well if you paid your money and they refused to give you what you paid for its theft and you could theroretically be entitled to shoot them. The big mistake the escort made was going to his house. You see because she came onto his property, took his property (money) and tried to leave his property without rendering the service. This is theft plain and simple. A prostitute cannot steal from her clients. Its tantamount to a drug dealer robbing you.
If that's what they advertise then she did not violate the agreement. Yes, sex is implied but this is the way escorts protect themselves from the law. If you call an escort and start saying, "how much for a BJ" she will hang up on you. An escort does not have to have sex just because you paid her, in fact many get tips on top of thier base fee. Lot of people talking here who do not know the game.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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Would you just as easily said African American or Hispanic or Indian or any other racial group? MOD CUT
Yes, I have never seen an african america, hispanic or indian or white or euro american massage parlour. In my area in toronto sex massage parlours are called asian massage parlous regardless of who is actually massaging you sexually. Most of them are run by people from southern countries of china that are asian. I really have no clue why it is called that nor did I intend to offend.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:10 AM
 
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If that's what they advertise then she did not violate the agreement. Yes, sex is implied but this is the way escorts protect themselves from the law. If you call an escort and start saying, "how much for a BJ" she will hang up on you. An escort does not have to have sex just because you paid her, in fact many get tips on top of thier base fee. Lot of people talking here who do not know the game.
Well yes its a cover for prostitution but the fact you are trying to prostitute while circumventing prostitution laws doesn't make you morally right, it actually makes you morally WRONG. In her case if she didn't intend to have sex with him and took his money all she had to do was give the money back, but she tried to rob him clearly sex was expected so he shot her for trying to steal. It is justified because stealing is always more wrong than killing a thief, he was justified. Had she just been straight forward and not try to steal she'd still be alive.
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The only reason escorts and escort agencies can legally work in the US despite of anti-prostitution laws if because they advertise that they ONLY sell time. Obviously it is just a cover for prostitution and sex does happen a lot of the time but technically the escort didn't do anything wrong.
I doubt she had a business license. I am sure if she went to an undercover cop's hotel room there would have been enough evidence in the email and telephone conversations to arrest her for solicitation.

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Everyone knows that "happy endings" (handjobs) often happen in massage parlors under the table but if a man shot and killed a massage therapists for not giving him a handjob would you think that was right?
No, but if he got the handjob and didn't give an additional tip, then it would be right for the masseuse to shoot him.
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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If that's what they advertise then she did not violate the agreement. Yes, sex is implied but this is the way escorts protect themselves from the law. If you call an escort and start saying, "how much for a BJ" she will hang up on you. An escort does not have to have sex just because you paid her, in fact many get tips on top of thier base fee. Lot of people talking here who do not know the game.
You obviously don't know the game if you think this woman was even pretending to be anything resembling a "legit" escort service and not someone promising sex with every intention of ripping off the john.
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Old 06-20-2013, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Those asian massage parlors open late at 2 am at night. Well if you paid your money and they refused to give you what you paid for its theft and you could theroretically be entitled to shoot them. The big mistake the escort made was going to his house. You see because she came onto his property, took his property (money) and tried to leave his property without rendering the service. This is theft plain and simple. A prostitute cannot steal from her clients. Its tantamount to a drug dealer robbing you.
Actually you pay the house fee which covers just the massage. Anything after that is usually paid after the service is rendered. The wallet may be in a locker at the time. If she isn't comfortable with the client, then no extras will be offered.
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