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Old 07-21-2014, 05:05 AM
 
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Manson and Simpson never killed anyone.
Are you serious?
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Are you serious?
Yes.

Who did Charles Manson and Orenthal James Simpson kill?
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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For Delaware, Thomas Capano. Came from a family (and his own career) of power and privilege. Had two mistresses but killed only one of them. Died in prison. Ann Rule wrote the best true crime book about the case.
Harrier thinks of serial killer Steven Pennell, and Billy Bailey - the last man to be executed by hanging in the United States (1996) when he thinks of Delaware killers.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I really, really wish I hadn't taken you up on this "literary journey". "Disturbing"...Too right. Ugh. I read Corll's Wikipedia page and got to the part describing what happened to his victims and I feel physically ill and had to stop. Mind I've read books about Ted Bundy, the Green River Killer, BTK, etc, and this is just too much for me. How someone that deeply disturbed and evil could walk unrecognized amongst the rest of us (he even help an apparently decent job the whole time) is beyond incredible.
Harrier has read practically every book about Gary Ridgway, Ted Bundy, and Dennis Rader.

The only true crime book that was so disturbing that Harrier had to put it down was one about some psychopath in New Mexico.

Harrier has forgotten the guy and his "lady"'s name because the things they did were so horrendous.

Harrier will Google the case and post it here.

Here it is - David Parker Ray.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...y/1_index.html

Harrier doesn't know the name of the book - but it is the only true crime book that he never finished reading.

This guy was truly sick.
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Here are some of my votes off the top of my head:

AZ - Jared Loughner
CA - Charles Manson
CO - Columbine shooters
CT - Adam Lanza
GA - Eric Rudolph
IL - John Wayne Gacy
MA - Boston strangler
MD/DC - Beltway snipers
MI - Andrew Kehoe
MT - Unibomber
OH - Donald Harvey
OK - Timothy McVeigh
TX - Charles Whitman
VA - Seung Hui Cho
WA - Gary Ridgeway
WI - Jeffery Dahmer
Good catch on Kehoe. Worst school massacre in American history, and it's almost completely forgotten.

AK: Robert Hansen or Israel Keyes
AR: Ronald Gene Simmons (killed 16 people, 14 of them his own family, over the span of a week)
CA: James Huberty
GA: Wayne Williams
MN: whoever killed Jacob Wetterling
SC: Susan Smith
UT: Gary Gilmore
WA: Ted Bundy

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The Beltway Snipers weren't from Maryland.
From the context of the OP, it seems clear that it refers to the state in which the killings took place, or from which the killer primarily lived while committing the killings. At least, that's my take on it.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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WA: Ted Bundy
Ted Bundy was a lightweight compared to Gary Ridgway - plus he spread his murders out over at least four states, and maybe more.

Ridgway is the top killer in Washington, by a river.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:10 AM
 
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Yes.

Who did Charles Manson and Orenthal James Simpson kill?
I 'bolded' Simpson. Who did he murder? How about Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman?

As far as Manson: he brainwashed the morons who did the actually killing; he was definitely an accessory.
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:32 AM
 
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From the context of the OP, it seems clear that it refers to the state in which the killings took place, or from which the killer primarily lived while committing the killings. At least, that's my take on it.
OK. It wasn't mine, but it's really not that big of a deal. Anyway, I'd say that Booth is the most infamous killer from Maryland (who did his killing in Washington, D.C.), and won't argue that the Beltway Snipers are the most infamous killers whose crimes were committed in Maryland (and elsewhere).
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I 'bolded' Simpson. Who did he murder? How about Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman?
Harrier seems to remember watching TV at 10:04 a.m. on October 3, 1995 and hearing a jury foreman say "we the jury in the above titled action find the defendant Orenthal James Simpson not guilty..."

Here it is, in case you missed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=infLrZjJpNc
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:22 PM
 
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Yes.

Who did Charles Manson and Orenthal James Simpson kill?
Charles Manson was convicted of killing Shorty Shea with his own two hands after Steve Grogan finally told them where to find the body. I know a lot of people think he never killed anyone if he only ordered a killing, but none of the other Manson murders would have happened without him choosing the houses and telling his peeps to kill everyone inside -- he even personally tied up the LaBiancas before sending his kill squad inside, dressed and equipped to kill them per his instructions. He even rewarded them with milkshakes afterwards. I know a lot of people take issue with this, but if you choose the victims and order the killings, under the law and certainly on an ethical level you are just as guilty as the person who did the killing, maybe more so. In fact he got angry at Tex Watson for not killing everyone in every house on Cielo Drive the first night, so if the Mansonites had not disobeyed him there would be far more people dead. Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it, readers!

OJ Simpson was acquitted of a murder he obviously committed, but then found liable for wrongful death in civil court. So you can take your choice there of course. But public opinion doesn't determine whether he did it or not. The court doesn't determine whether he really did it or not, if you think about it. They only decide whether he gets punished for it. Unaccountably, they voted against.
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