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Old 02-10-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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What's all this NYC bashing about ?

The city is locked down by government and has become a police state, NYC in the 90s was a complete monster.I dont think Chicago is advanced or has money like New York to fight off the crime like that.Places like Brooklyn & Harlem are still dangerous but just going through gentrification like crazy and like i said there's police literally everywhere.

 
Old 02-10-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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Exactly. It's not that it is any less dangerous in Chicago now than the 90's. It is just that urgent care has advanced dramatically in the last 25 years.
Look at the police annual reports for assaults with guns though, there were actually thousands more shootings in the 1990's up through around 2003 than there are today. Murders are down by 50%, but shootings are down by more.

The number of level-one trauma centers in these worst of the worst neighborhoods has gone down to roughly zero in the past decade or so. Medical advances have happened, but overall the number of shootings is down quite a bit.

For whatever that's worth, it's still terrible. Non-murder crimes have gone down well over 50%-70% over the past 25 years. It's insane the amount of crime in US cities in the early 1990's. Chicago had over 350,000 crimes. Last year it was well under 100,000.
 
Old 02-10-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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Yeah, something tells me the National Guard is going to be camped out in Chicago come May.
It would work in the sense that only select areas are seeing the shootiings, but those areas are all heavily black neighborhoods on the west and south sides. There's going to be a lot of touchy racist issues to deal with if you flood the cities with national guard, but they only go to select areas and those are all the key black neighborhoods in the city. It creates an us-vs them mentality for many, and that's the last thing we need.

So far this year 75% of shooting vicitims have been black compared to 4% white/asian.

Random stats for shootings so far through February 9th:

26% of shootings happened in places with 4% of the city's population. That's 88 shootings for 137,082 people.
40% of shootings happened in places with 9% of the city's population.
50% of shootings happened in places with 13% of the city's population.
68% of shootings happened in places with 23% of the city's population. That's 229 shootings for 632,536 people.

75% of the city's population live in areas that saw 27% of its shootings.

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Old 02-10-2016, 09:32 AM
 
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It would work in the sense that only select areas are seeing the shootiings, but those areas are all heavily black neighborhoods on the west and south sides. There's going to be a lot of touchy racist issues to deal with if you flood the cities with national guard, but they only go to select areas and those are all the key black neighborhoods in the city.

So far this year 75% of shooting vicitims have been black compared to 4% white/asian.

Random stats for shootings so far through February 9th:

26% of shootings happened in places with 4% of the city's population.
40% of shootings happened in places with 9% of the city's population.
50% of shootings happened in places with 13% of the city's population.
68% of shootings happened in places with 23% of the city's population.

75% of the city's population live in areas that saw 29% of its shootings.
Crime in Chicago is not an issue since it is happening in mostly black neighborhood... So since it is only black people dying, this is not an issue, we Chicagoan will start to care when 1 white guy will be shot, until then, let us move onto real issues shall we?
 
Old 02-10-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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Crime in Chicago is not an issue since it is happening in mostly black neighborhood... So since it is only black people dying, this is not an issue, we Chicagoan will start to care when 1 white guy will be shot, until then, let us move onto real issues shall we?
You're entitled to your opinion, but that's a pretty bogus way to live your life and to think like that in my opinion. It's all ONE city, the challenges of one area should be the issues of another. It's a city issue overall.
 
Old 02-10-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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What's all this NYC bashing about ?

The city is locked down by government and has become a police state, NYC in the 90s was a complete monster.I dont think Chicago is advanced or has money like New York to fight off the crime like that.Places like Brooklyn & Harlem are still dangerous but just going through gentrification like crazy and like i said there's police literally everywhere.
The homicide rate in the Bronx (most "dangerous" NY borough) is only about 5/100k... Less than Dallas, less than Houston, less than L.A, less than Boston, less than Miami, almost on part with San Francisco, less than San Antonio... and somehow apart from Miami, all those cities I mentioned are called "Safe" on CD...
Brooklyn is about 4/100k, the Queens is around 2.2/100k, i think Manhattan is around 1.9/100k and Staten island even less

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Old 02-10-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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The homicide rate in the Bronx (most "dangerous" NY borough) is only about 5/100k... Less than Dallas, less than Houston, less than L.A, less than Boston, less than Miami, almost on part with San Francisco, less than San Antonio... and somehow apart from Miami, all those cities I mentioned are called "Safe" on CD...
Brooklyn is about 4/100k, the Queens is around 2.2/100k, i think Manhattan is around 1.9/100k and Staten island even less
NYC is flooded with cops remember that NYC has 12% of America GDP, 700,000-900,000 tourists and visitors combined together a day
 
Old 02-10-2016, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Maine
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The homicide rate in the Bronx (most "dangerous" NY borough) is only about 5/100k... Less than Dallas, less than Houston, less than L.A, less than Boston, less than Miami, almost on part with San Francisco, less than San Antonio... and somehow apart from Miami, all those cities I mentioned are called "Safe" on CD...
Brooklyn is about 4/100k, the Queens is around 2.2/100k, i think Manhattan is around 1.9/100k and Staten island even less
NYC's overall arrest rate is 3x Boston's Suffolk County, 2x LA County and almost 2x Houston's Harris County. NY State also has the highest marijuana arrest rate in the country.

I think Brownsville has the highest murder and robbery rate in the city now but I'm not sure. But I don't think it has the highest overall violent crime rate. Its murder rate was 25/100k last year which is tame compared to when it was 150/100k.

Brownsville back in the day had the same murder rate as Gugulethu and Nyanga do today (Cape Town's most violent neighborhoods).

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Old 02-10-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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NYC's counties overall arrest rate is 3x Boston's Suffolk County, 2x LA County and almost 2x Houston's Harris County. NY State also has the highest marijuana arrest rate in the country.

I think Brownsville has the highest murder and robbery rate in the city now but I'm not sure. But I don't think it has the highest overall violent crime rate. Its murder rate was 25/100k last year which is tame compared to when it was 150/100k.

Brownsville back in the day had the same murder rate as Gugulethu and Nyanga do today (Cape Town's most violent neighborhoods).

Brownsville/East New York is NYC most dangerous area for murder rates but The Bronx has highest violent crime rate.
 
Old 02-10-2016, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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NYC's overall arrest rate is 3x Boston's Suffolk County, 2x LA County and almost 2x Houston's Harris County. NY State also has the highest marijuana arrest rate in the country.
You are citing old stats. Possession of marijuana in NYC is decriminalized (you just get a $100 ticket, not getting arrested), thus the arrest rate for marijuana related offences dropped by almost half statewide.

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Brownsville back in the day had the same murder rate as Gugulethu and Nyanga do today (Cape Town's most violent neighborhoods).
Again you are citing old stats. Who cares what Brownsville was like "back in the day", we are talking about 2016. In 2016 NYC has projects that have lower crime rates than a lot of other cities' averages.
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