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Old 11-29-2016, 07:22 PM
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There's a documentary on Netflix about this. There's a man who claims that he helped kidnap this young boy. He has wild tales to tell but they were able to verify or find some evidence of truth in the tales. It had something to do with a large pedophile ring in Omaha and some powerful people were put under the spotlight.

Interesting watch if youre curious. It also talks to the mom and she explains some things that are questioned in posts above.
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Old 12-01-2016, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Amy1022 View Post
I think I as a mother of the boy would rather think he was alive than dead. What you're saying is very blunt and insensitive, and I for one would not want to read what you wrote would I be the mother. Whether he is alive or not, I would think the mother may have either created this story as a self defense mechanism, or it really happened and he cannot come home in order to protect her. However only God knows this. So let her be, and put yourself in her shoes and see how'd you feel being in her position.
She can continue in her little world if she wants. as I said, I understand it.. But she has the ability to live in hope or denial or whatever you want to call it. People on the outside, particularly investigators, can't live in that world.

Some people choose to believe that Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid.. That Bonnie and Clyde got away..
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:32 AM
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I think she has driven herself mad, too, fueled in large part by her anger at the initial police response. And i'm sure there have been people along the way who were all too happy to exploit her emotional state to perpetuate their theories.
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Old 12-28-2016, 11:41 PM
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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I think Johnny gosch is dead and his body is hidden and will never be found. This case gives me chills amd one of the cases that makes my mind go crazy.

The worst part about it is that you can read for hours and hours and hours and at the end of the day you'll never know the truth.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by burgler09 View Post
I think Johnny gosch is dead
I'd like to know the early life of Jeff Gannon and until then the suspicion remains.
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Old 04-08-2017, 10:53 AM
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Default Sex trafficking

No matter if Johnny is alive or dead, Noreen has done an enormous job in creating awareness about sex trafficking and the protection of children.
Today an alert goes out immediately, back then the police waited over 72 hours before searching losing valuable time.
If you don't believe sex trafficking can happen to this extent like the Franklin files tried to expose, consider this..
The USA is one of the largest producers of child porn in the world.

Check out sites like



Or just not for sale... sec trafficking...

And inform yourselves.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:39 PM
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And I ask again: do you have evidence that he is dead?

No. The whole, exact problem is that he seemed to step off he face of the earth and disappear. There's no proof he's alive. There's no proof he's dead. This is the kind of situation that leads people to try to fill in the blanks with wild theories.

Johnny was old enough to get to a phone and call for help if he was still alive. I think he died the day he disappeared. I do not believe for a second that he walked into his mom's house, told her he was being trafficked by a ring of white slavers, and then walked out again without her blocking the door, forcing him at gunpoint to stay, calling the cops to get them to help her make him stay, sitting on him, SOMETHING. And the two versions can't both be true, can they? His dad did something and a band of child pornographers snatched him off the street? The poor woman is grasping at straw after straw after straw.

Me, I think John Joubert got him. He was in the general area when Johnny disappeared -- only a 2-hour drive away according to Google -- and Johnny was so very Joubert's type. He always went for paperboys who looked like Huck Finn. They simply haven't found where he dumped the body.
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Old 12-23-2017, 09:08 PM
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Default Research Matters

If you want to see how the Gosch case unfolded. Head to the downtown branch of the Des Moines Library and read the stories about the case on microfilm. It is a painstaking journey, but one worth going on if you want to know what actually happened.

Here are some things to ponder from the Register's reporting:

Contrary to what Noreen claims, law enforcement was very active in the search for Johnny, including the state's investigative unit sending planes in a 40-mile radius looking for the boy.

There was no eyewitnesses to the abduction reported until several years after the day of the abduction.

Leonard and Noreen received the phone call about no delivery of the Sunday paper about 90 minutes after Johnny went missing. According to the FBI, most child abduction cases end terribly within three hours of an abduction. Johnny was already against Father Time and the cops were as well.

Who delivers newspapers when their child is missing? Leonard finished Johnny's route.

No evidence was found. None. No sandal, no ripped pieces of clothing, no strands of hair.

Do the research and stop focusing on Noreen's version of events. According to the Register, Noreen accused a cult of taking Johnny, claimed death threats against her right after the abduction, and stated two psychics predicted Johnny's body would be found in an area along I-35 near living History Farms.

Noreen and Leonard organized a search party to search the area, but Noreen stayed home to make more posters.

Johnny probably got into a car with someone he knew (hence, the dog not barking). So, who was this person?
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:23 AM
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I'm not sure why this case remains such a mystery. With facial recognition technology, surely those kids the mom believes to be Johnny can be proven - at least to the public and law enforcement - not to be him. I don't know that she will allow herself to accept the truth that they aren't her son, but the rest of us can.

Awful story.
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Old 09-08-2018, 05:04 PM
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The whole thing--from beginning to end--smells of hoax. Either Noreen Gosch knows much more than she's telling or she's crazy and probably was crazy long before her son vanished. I, too, believe him long dead (almost certainly he was dispatched the day he was taken after probably having been tortured and raped). There are anomalies about the case that make one wonder: 1) did the Gosches actually receive the bizarre phone call described by Noreen? 2) what's up with a red wagon and a lap dog being on a paper route? It sounds like something from an episode of Our Gang, circa 1935; 3) why, on an overcast, cool September morning did Johnny leave the house in plastic sandals (flip-flops??) Those things are hard to walk in especially if one is encumbered by a wagon full of newspapers and a dog. NONE OF IT--from beginning to end--MAKES ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER. It sounds exactly like a story concocted to be deliberately fuzzy and therefore misleading. Who would invent such a bizarre tale unless she was involved in (or is fully aware of) the disappearance?
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