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Old 11-28-2016, 04:55 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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Do you have any idea how many kids lie and cover during questioning by Social Service Workers?

I wonder if Social Services were made aware of Burkes scatolia ( finger painting with fecal matter)?
Even if one believes Burke guilty...which does account for Patsy or John never turning on each other...how do you get past the sick sexual staging? How do you find your dead 6yr old child killed at the hands of your 10 yr old and say ok let's do unspeakable acts upon her to throw authorities off Burke's trail(which btw if true worked)...
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Old 11-29-2016, 10:59 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Even if one believes Burke guilty...which does account for Patsy or John never turning on each other...how do you get past the sick sexual staging? How do you find your dead 6yr old child killed at the hands of your 10 yr old and say ok let's do unspeakable acts upon her to throw authorities off Burke's trail(which btw if true worked)...
Steve Thomas said PDI, Arndt thought JDI,
Kolar BDI, Lou Smit IDI. My opins based on info with a strong possibility Burke was involved. Both BR and JonBenet awake; she ate fruit cocktail an hour before death. Do we know possitively sexual staging was the parents?
A panel of experts met with coroner Dr Meyer, who agreed with prior abuse without establishing when the abuse occurred; I don't believe its JR, PR or an intruder. Massive amounts of interviewing declaring their innocence speaks to John and Patsys typical image obsessed narcissism capable of cover up.
Look at the alternative....theres no way Miss West Virginias gonna sit in a jail cell crocheting ponchos like Martha Stewart..
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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Steve Thomas said PDI, Arndt thought JDI,
Kolar BDI, Lou Smit IDI. My opins based on info with a strong possibility Burke was involved. Both BR and JonBenet awake; she ate fruit cocktail an hour before death. Do we know possitively sexual staging was the parents?
A panel of experts met with coroner Dr Meyer, who agreed with prior abuse without establishing when the abuse occurred; I don't believe its JR, PR or an intruder. Massive amounts of interviewing declaring their innocence speaks to John and Patsys typical image obsessed narcissism capable of cover up.
Look at the alternative....theres no way Miss West Virginias gonna sit in a jail cell crocheting ponchos like Martha Stewart..
Prior abuse does explain the staging and also might be a reason not to implicate Burke...god knows if there was abuse letting him out of the care and control would have likely opened Pandora's box...hmmm interesting...
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Old 11-29-2016, 05:23 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Please post links for sealed and supposedly unreleased evidence grand jury used for indictment as well as information about Smits denial by BPD presenting 3hr testimony.
Maybe you could post links to these statements.

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we know Burke made tea in the kitchen
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Patsy yells out 'POLICE' during her 911 call, giving the heads up, another indication Burke was awake during the 911 call.
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Is it normal for a 9 yr old to drop their underwear with a bowl movement in their sisters bedrm?
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Old 11-29-2016, 05:26 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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A panel of experts met with coroner Dr Meyer, who agreed with prior abuse without establishing when the abuse occurred
Dr. Meyer, the coroner, did not ever agree that there was prior abuse.
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Old 11-29-2016, 09:09 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Dr. Meyer, the coroner, did not ever agree that there was prior abuse.
He agreed according to article posted and discussed. Additional links requested have been discussed by forum members. Theres no need to go over the same discussions repeatedly for selective memory.
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Old 11-30-2016, 06:04 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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He agreed according to article posted and discussed. Additional links requested have been discussed by forum members. Theres no need to go over the same discussions repeatedly for selective memory.
You misquoted about prior abuse. Dr. Meyer did not ever agree with anyone that there was prior abuse, and he was the doctor who actually performed the autopsy. He brought in another doctor to confirm his evaluation.

Re-read what you wrote on this thread, with your multiple embedded quotations.
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Old 11-30-2016, 06:09 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Prosecution wasnt the only side GJ heard.
Discussed on this and on prior threads.

A grand jury does not make its decision in the context of an adversary proceeding. Grand jurors see and hear only what prosecutors put before them. The whole point of a grand jury is to decide if there is enough evidence, beyond a reasonable doubt, to prosecute.
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Old 11-30-2016, 06:16 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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From the Boulder Daily Camera, April, 2001:
"Smit made his case to the district attorney and his team of prosecutors, showing them a Powerpoint presentation of his intruder theory, according to court records released last year.

The computer presentation included the crime scene photos he took with him when he left the Boulder County District Attorney's Office in September 1998, after dedicating 18 months to the case.

It would be "in the best interest of justice" to show it to the grand jury, Smit told prosecutors.

On Feb. 11, 1999*, prosecutors informed Smit his request was denied.

Not satisfied, the head-strong cop fought his case in court and won."


Smit seeks justice for JonBenét

*When Hunter demanded that Smit return evidence that he collected while he worked on the case, including crime scene photographs, Smit refused, stating he would keep his records even if he had to go to jail, because he believed the evidence would be destroyed if returned, since it supported the intruder theory. Hunter filed a restraining order and got a court injunction demanding the evidence.
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Old 11-30-2016, 06:26 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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They would have sent him to the Whites because the Whites were the only people they trusted. They knew the Whites would tactfully do something to take his mind off whatever happened that night, probably let him play with toys. They knew the Whites would have the compassion to not ask him about last night.
Except that the Whites were at the Ramseys' house. We still don't know who the "grandmother" was who gave permission for BR to be interviewed by Det Patterson while BR was at the Whites. (From what I've read, after he interviewed BR, Patterson apparently believed that BR did not know anything about what happened that night.)
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