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Old 11-12-2017, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It would be a great course to have in school.

Also, parents who use alcohol drugs, certain meds that they are not suppose to take during pregnancy, get a prison term along with therapy.

I have seen Children with Fetal Alchohol Syndrome that the mother never had any illegal consequences.
I know a woman who while she was pregnant, she smoked the whole time during the pregnancy. Fast forward several years and her child is very autistic, and so she qualifies for tons of government aid because she has a special needs child, which may or may not have been due to her smoking.
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Clarence, NY- New Haven, CT
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Im no parent or genius, but when he started killing animals and unlimbing them for "fun," that would've been a sign of something up.... from what I can remember, his father gave him a disecting set to do that
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Old 11-13-2017, 05:50 AM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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I know a woman who while she was pregnant, she smoked the whole time during the pregnancy. Fast forward several years and her child is very autistic, and so she qualifies for tons of government aid because she has a special needs child, which may or may not have been due to her smoking.
You must be pretty young. Go back 30, 40 or more years, women smoking while pregnant was the norm. Most of them drank alcohol too and many took drugs prescribed by their doctors that are almost impossible to get hold of or illegal now. Plus almost all children were immunized back then, unlike today. Yet the autism numbers weren't any higher back then. I think you're mistaken to blame that mother for what happened to her child.
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Old 11-13-2017, 05:57 AM
 
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Im no parent or genius, but when he started killing animals and unlimbing them for "fun," that would've been a sign of something up.... from what I can remember, his father gave him a disecting set to do that
Again parent blaming without knowing the facts. Despite the rumors and consequently regurgitated misinformation on blogs He never killed animals, he dissected animals he found dead. Still sick,but his fascination with examining the carcasses of dead animals is not something he shared until he was an adult and in prison. Psychopaths are very clever at hiding things,or disguising things to look like normal interests.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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Someone has to grow up to be taxidermists (which is how he presented the "hobby" to his father) as well as lab techs, morticians, surgeons, medical examiners, pathologists, etc. Most of us couldn't stomach that, but thank goodness there are people who can.


I watched the "Jeffrey Dahmer Speaks Out" show that was aired this past weekend. Other than those crimes, I'd have to say he seems like a very decent guy. I would blame either the bio mother's detached parenting style or her prenatal pharma use.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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Someone has to grow up to be taxidermists (which is how he presented the "hobby" to his father) as well as lab techs, morticians, surgeons, medical examiners, pathologists, etc. Most of us couldn't stomach that, but thank goodness there are people who can.


I watched the "Jeffrey Dahmer Speaks Out" show that was aired this past weekend. Other than those crimes, I'd have to say he seems like a very decent guy. I would blame either the bio mother's detached parenting style or her prenatal pharma use.
Read "The Stranger Beside Me."

Even AFTER people who knew Ted Bundy learned who Ted Bundy really was, they could not believe it. After all, he was such a likable fellow.

That's the very nature of sociopaths. They hide in plain sight.

And there's Helen Morrison, who wrote "My Life Among Serial Killers."

She writes,

"With serial killers, I never quite know whom I'm dealing with. They're so friendly and so kind and very solicitous at the beginning of our work together. I've often thought, is this person the right person? Maybe I missed something.

"They're charming, almost unbelievably so, charismatic like a Cary Grant or George Clooney (although rarely as handsome). They treat me as if I am a kindred spirit. However, when I sit with them for 4-6 hours at a time, solid, without interruption, everything changes. I have learned that a serial murderer can't maintain his solicitude for any period of time past 2-3 hours. At this point, I can begin to strip away the superficial layer of affability to reveal a dark, barren core."
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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If there's one thing I have learned, it's that no two children are ever raised in the same family.


What an interesting way of putting it. Would you say that even goes for twins?
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:57 PM
 
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What an interesting way of putting it. Would you say that even goes for twins?
I knew a set of twins who weren't raised in the same family. They weren't identical and the parents favored the bigger, better looking, more athletic one. The smaller one did better at school but he got no props for that because he wasn't a standout scholar I guess.

The favored one got praised, got to use the car, got to go more places, etc etc etc.
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Old 11-13-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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Read "The Stranger Beside Me."

Even AFTER people who knew Ted Bundy learned who Ted Bundy really was, they could not believe it. After all, he was such a likable fellow.

That's the very nature of sociopaths. They hide in plain sight.

And there's Helen Morrison, who wrote "My Life Among Serial Killers."

She writes,

"With serial killers, I never quite know whom I'm dealing with. They're so friendly and so kind and very solicitous at the beginning of our work together. I've often thought, is this person the right person? Maybe I missed something.

"They're charming, almost unbelievably so, charismatic like a Cary Grant or George Clooney (although rarely as handsome). They treat me as if I am a kindred spirit. However, when I sit with them for 4-6 hours at a time, solid, without interruption, everything changes. I have learned that a serial murderer can't maintain his solicitude for any period of time past 2-3 hours. At this point, I can begin to strip away the superficial layer of affability to reveal a dark, barren core."
Yes, I realize that sociopaths can be superficially charming -- but Dahmer wasn't. He just seemed like a meek, mild man who was sincerely just as puzzled and troubled by his "compulsions" as the rest of the world was...
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Old 11-13-2017, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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What an interesting way of putting it. Would you say that even goes for twins?
Bipolar disorder are considered to be one of the most highly inheritable mental disorders, yet the level of expression in identical twins is 50% - which means in half the cases where one identical twin has bipolar disorder, the other one doesn't.

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Why the difference? Different experiences of the environment, different choices, different treatment by parental figures, different belief systems, minute differences in the womb environment (or perhaps in the functioning of the placenta, etc. Even identical twins are not 100% identical.
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