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Old 02-04-2018, 11:18 PM
 
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True! Too many that weren't there or have zero ability to accept the obvious.
It's only obvious to the people who were involved. That is obvious. The rest of us are left to speculate
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Old 02-05-2018, 02:20 AM
 
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Posted an actual Forensic Examiner Report of Natalie Wood for those interested. Didn't read it in entirety yet.
Looks like it's very interesting though.


http://documents.latimes.com/natalie...c-examination/
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Old 02-05-2018, 05:00 AM
 
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True! Too many that weren't there or have zero ability to accept the obvious.
Still.......why not call for help? What is the obvious? Were you there?
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Old 02-05-2018, 06:00 AM
 
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I thought he had been a suspect many times as this case has popped up repeatedly over the years.
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Old 02-05-2018, 07:10 AM
 
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I urge anyone interested in this case to look at this report. It tells alot about the investigation and reopening of the case This is a real copied original document full of facts. Just some tidbits: It was determined her extensive bruising occurred before entry into the water at about midnight and partially digested stomach contents support this .Her time of death also is said to be about midnight. Mr. Wagner noticed her missing at midnight, but reported it at 0130 by marine radio. I can go on and on.

http://documents.latimes.com/natalie...c-examination/
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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The autopsy drawing showed bruises on her body, that indicated a beating. They were all drinking and careless that night. Robert did not get her help.................that speaks volumes. He just went to bed and reported her missing the next morning. The ball was dropped and the investigation stopped all those years ago. Someone may have been paid off, to look the other way.
That caught my eye. The bruises may not necessarily have been indicative of a beating. My niece's husband is an EMT in a small town on the Hudson. They were called because someone saw a body in the water, and they recovered the body. It was thought at first that the person was a murder victim because he appeared to have been beaten, but it turned out it was mishandling of the body by the EMTs who pulled him out.

He and the others had to go for subsequent training on how to properly remove a body from the water without damaging it.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:13 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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The case investigations ongoing since 2011 reopening. Her death certificate was amended from 'accidental ' to 'uncertain'.

Wagner and Wood had whats referred to as ' on again off again' marriage. First marriage in 1957 , divorced and remarried in 1972.

Page 6 of the Autopsy report under 'Opinion', states most of the bruising sustained at the time of drowning.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:23 AM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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Unless Christopher Wakens or the boat captain spills the beans this case will continue to go nowhere.
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Old 02-05-2018, 11:34 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Unless Christopher Wakens or the boat captain spills the beans this case will continue to go nowhere.
Indeed. But I don't know that either of the two knew much then and certainly not now.
A bartender at the restaurant where the 4 had dinner described Wakens and Daverns as drunk before returning to the boat where its said drinking continued.
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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Why can't Occam's Razor be applied?
Let's review the facts.

-she was drunk (.14 BAC)
-She was wearing a heavy down jacket
-She was on a small inflatable boat (or fell from it or near it trying to board it)
-she couldn't swim strongly
-she was terrified of drowning (because she knew that she was not a strong swimmer capable of open water swimming- pretty normal and common - most people are not).

That all points to an accidental drowning. Drunk people have problems with depth perception, motor control (balancing, moving, etc), and an inflatable boat is a cramped platform that is also moving a lot, upsetting the equilibrium of even unimpaired people, who also often fall overboard from these kinds of boats).

You add it all up, and the MOST likely explanation for her death is accidental drowning.
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