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Old 12-11-2018, 06:28 PM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 7 days ago)
 
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Interesting terminology, repeated use of the word "claims".

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/wo.../500-622962728

I wonder what's the back story here. The judge, and the prosecutor, state that the facts led them away from prosecuting the case to the fullest, as there was conflicting evidence that would not have led to a conviction of rape before a jury.

So they settled it out of court.

I think in this kind of case, where the criminal court has run its course, and the victim sues in civil court, the victim's name should now be revealed.

Criminal court is one thing, when you sue for a million bucks it's time to put your skin in the game, IMHO.

And now, because it's in civil court, the "problems" with this case will be public.
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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Wow.. I'm surprised. I thought I was going to read that and it was the newspaper that didn't ID the plaintiff. And, I could understand that.

A "Doe" civil case.. Yeah.. That gets into a weird area that I'm not sure i'm comfortable with. I'd have no problem with the newspaper not IDing the person.. But court records?
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Old 12-12-2018, 01:24 PM
 
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Wow.. I'm surprised. I thought I was going to read that and it was the newspaper that didn't ID the plaintiff. And, I could understand that.

A "Doe" civil case.. Yeah.. That gets into a weird area that I'm not sure i'm comfortable with. I'd have no problem with the newspaper not IDing the person.. But court records?


Roe vs. Wade was a civil case that didn't reveal the name of the plaintiff, and nobody says anything about that. Her name was not really Jane Roe. Especially considering the nature of the issue being brought to court this time, I'm not that surprised they're keeping the name private.
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Old 12-12-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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Roe vs. Wade was also a case that was mooted by the fact that by the time it got to Washington she had already given birth. In reality, the whole case was just a theoretical that was thrown at SCOTUS for political change. Jane Roe's real name was Norma McCorvey and she revealed in her books and writings how she felt before she died and went so far as to try to complain to SCOTUS that her lawyers took advantage of her for political gain. The reply of SCOTUS was only that it was "Too late" without denying that her Lawyer (who did not appear in court) had abused her.

In my own experiences, "DOE" cases are often about intentionally remaining vague to hide people.
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:27 AM
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Wow. I wonder why the prosecutor even prosecuted this case. I understand why he wasn't given jail time - why was he prosecuted at all?

Hopefully, the truth that will come out in the civil trial - if one actually does proceed - will air the facts.

This case should have been handled with charging her with falsely reporting a crime, and be done with it.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/lo.../269-623641971
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Old 12-17-2018, 01:41 PM
 
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She is also suing the fraternity and she might get a settlement from them. The suit against Baylor may not stick because the house where this occurred was off campus. I'm wondering what Baylor's relations to this fraternity are. I think many universities would do well to distance themselves from Greek culture because there are inevitable lawsuits from hazing incidents, rapes, etcetera.
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Old 12-17-2018, 08:38 PM
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She is also suing the fraternity and she might get a settlement from them. The suit against Baylor may not stick because the house where this occurred was off campus. I'm wondering what Baylor's relations to this fraternity are. I think many universities would do well to distance themselves from Greek culture because there are inevitable lawsuits from hazing incidents, rapes, etcetera.
I would be surprised if she gets a settlement, at all.

There is apparently no DNA evidence that this encounter even occurred, and after she stated it occurred she was seen by friends looking fine. There is absolutely no evidence that she was choked and left to die. Or even that the sexual encounter she states happened, happened.

IMHO, it's time for the media to name the accuser the way they name the accused. Unless the accuser is a child.

It's completely shocking to me that this case was prosecuted, at all. This should have been dismissed with no charges against the man, IMHO.
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