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09-25-2007, 03:05 PM
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1st Amendment, RIP!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa
Yes - and no. Under the 1980 Groundwater Act subdivisions in AMAs (Active Management Areas) are required to show an "assured water suppy" which basically means, the water is available, it is of adequate quality, the delivery system is present and the water supplier is capable of delivering it. Recent changes in the rules have allowed renewable sources and recharge exchanges. The AMAs generally are the city/metro areas of AZ. I think a Pinal AMA was added this year, but I'm not sure on that or what its boundaries might be.
Outside of the AMAs, generally rural Arizona, the above rules do not apply. Here, subdividers are required to apply to the Department of Water Resources for a determination of "adequate" supply for 100 years. If ADWR gives it to them, all is good. If they don't, then they can still sell lots but they must disclose the lack of adequate supply in the public report. So, when buying land in Arizona ALWAYS check the public report. Many, many lots/tracts are for sale without adequate water supplies. I would be wary even if a piece of property is designated as adequate. The data are sparse and the methods used to determine adequacy are pretty low tech. Again, this is in rural non-AMA areas. You don't need to fret if buying a house in an urban area.
Arizona has a pretty good groundwater law, but some of the compromises in getting it passed left big and potentially dangerous holes in it. I don't think it is possible to get a perfect law, politically, so we will have to settle for the one we have and maybe amend it over time as conditions warrant.
Yes, "challenges" is an understatement. There are close to 20 million people in the west who depend on an over-allocated Colorado River and declining groundwater tables. Pray for rain!
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That's good information, Ponderosa. Thanks.  I wonder how many of the people living in the rural areas are aware of what you're saying... Probably not all of them.
I fret over a lot of issues, but that's not one of them.  Actually, last couple of years the monsoons did quite well. I'm not a fan of them, but they are needed. If they could only do their job at night alone, it'd be perfect. 
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09-25-2007, 03:38 PM
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Respected Contributor
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Location: One of happiest states in US
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There was a bill in the legislature this session that would allow counties, cities and towns to establish the same standards as AMA's for non-AMA's in their jurisdiction. I've hung up my spurs so I don't watch these things as closely, but I suspect it did pass and was signed into law.
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09-25-2007, 03:44 PM
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1st Amendment, RIP!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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I've hung up my spurs so I don't watch these things as closely
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Now, that's not a nice thing to say in the middle of the workday...  I envy you!  OK... enjoy! 
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09-25-2007, 03:52 PM
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Respected Contributor
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Originally Posted by sierraAZ
Now, that's not a nice thing to say in the middle of the workday...  I envy you!  OK... enjoy! 
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You're posting at work  !!! Shame on you.
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09-25-2007, 03:57 PM
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1st Amendment, RIP!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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You're posting at work  !!! Shame on you.
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Did you think I was an unemployed bum?!  Or everybody else for that matter?
It's called multitasking nowadays.
Hmm, judging by the emoticons... you might be serious...
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09-25-2007, 04:10 PM
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Did you think I was an unemployed bum?!  Or everybody else for that matter?
It's called multitasking nowadays.
Hmm, judging by the emoticons... you might be serious...
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Well yeah, since you are from Tucson, I just figured you didn't have a job... 
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09-25-2007, 04:15 PM
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1st Amendment, RIP!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tucson
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Well yeah, since you are from Tucson, I just figured you didn't have a job... 
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I may not be in love with Tucson, but it's not THAT bad after all...  Then again, your assumption could've been right. Some women are lucky enough not to work. I had such a phase in my life and recall it with fondness.  Will never understand how people get bored...
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09-25-2007, 06:58 PM
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The land of bougainvillea, citrus and palm trees
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Location: Mesa, Az
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The reason people are moving to AZ is for jobs. Places like MI and IA are suffering economically and strangely everyone is allured to Phoenix/Las Vegas/Florida/North Carolina that lives there.  And "crappy weather"? haha Look no further than your summer. These people rush to the sunbelt looking for an easier winter, just to find out they have to deal with God-awful summers.  And AZ? Talk about the most repetetive, hot, unforgiving weather in the USA... 
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As you may be aware: I am from Wash DC......and, I will never live in a '4 season' climate again!  
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Also, places like Chicago, Minneapolis, Indianapolis, Louisville, etc are growing (especially the burbs) quite rapidly and offer much more to do than Phoenix and also have a much more forgiving climate (you know, change of seasons, rain, some cloudy days, cooler summers, etc).
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For those who preferf that sort of thing; enjoy
On a more serious note; it has been said that some people have greater tolerance to cold whereas others, like myself, do better in at least dry heat.
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09-25-2007, 08:10 PM
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Bushwood Country Club
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Red Rock, Arizona
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear
As you may be aware: I am from Wash DC......and, I will never live in a '4 season' climate again!  
For those who prefer that sort of thing; enjoy
On a more serious note; it has been said that some people have greater tolerance to cold whereas others, like myself, do better in at least dry heat.
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Same here, except I'm from Illinois. I LOVE the dry heat and summer is my favorite time of year. I've never had a problem staying active and have spent many summer afternoons playing golf in Arizona. There's a lot of people that see the high temperature for the day and don't realize that mornings and evenings can be very pleasant. Right now is the best, highs in the 90's and lows in the 60's.
I remember reading here once that a women was upset because her make-up would run when she rode her bike in the hot afternoon sun. Well, no kidding! That's just stupid to put make-up on to go ride a bike and then to do it during the peak heat of the day. Yeah, it gets hot out here, you have to adapt and be smart. Toto! You're not in Kansas any more!
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