Why move to Tucson? (Phoenix, Nogales: neighborhood, schools, university)

[JillBoBill]

I'm always curious where people expect Tucson to put her proposed new freeways. The city is pretty packed (in so far that there's not any room to just squeeze a multilane highway in) -- should we lay waste to people who are in the way? Expand an existing through way (like Speedway or Broadway), thereby uprooting all the businesses there? Or maybe we can have a highway that goes ABOVE the city. This IS 2009 - we ARE technically in 'The Future' so maybe we should all just get flying cars and then we can drive ABOVE the city.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_V7iZ39YZkw...tFlyingCar.jpg

[LordBalfor]

Originally Posted by JillBoBill

I'm always curious where people expect Tucson to put her proposed new freeways. The city is pretty packed (in so far that there's not any room to just squeeze a multilane highway in) -- should we lay waste to people who are in the way?

That's pretty much ALWAYS the method used. Keep in mind that the cities were pretty much all there first when the initial freeway system was put in and so virtually every freeway as put where people's homes used to be.

Ken

[Ritchie_az]

If I were in charge, here is where I'd build the freeways:
1) From the I-10 just south of Orange Grove, follow the Rillito River east to the Pantano Wash, then follow the Pantano wash southeast, then between Rita Ranch and Vail head south to the I-10.
2) From the Rita Rd exit from I-10, west to Hughes Access Rd (airport access would be constructed), then across the river to the I-19.
3) Ajo Highway would be made a freeway towards Ryan airport.
4) Tangerine Rd would be made a freeway west to Sanders Rd and east at least 2/3 the way to Oracle Rd.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by J3anaka

Tucson is nice, but only thing that i dont like is freeway. This is not a small town, but you still need to stuck on traffic light to get to work. I think Tucson need 1-2 more freeway to make it easy for people to go around, to work, school and stuff. I work at the airport, really love to have the apt in Foothill or Oro Valley but the street and traffic light is killing me.

How about an actual transit system instead of another freeway that will be traffic choked in about 5 minutes?

[Ritchie_az]

"How about an actual transit system instead of another freeway"

Like what, the trolley?

The buses back up traffic and are often empty or near empty.

Light rail? Won't work in Tucson because not enough people work in downtown, and those who do work in downtown live in every direction (light rail is linear).

What "actual transit system" do you have in mind?

[J3anaka]

Originally Posted by JillBoBill

I'm always curious where people expect Tucson to put her proposed new freeways. The city is pretty packed (in so far that there's not any room to just squeeze a multilane highway in) -- should we lay waste to people who are in the way? Expand an existing through way (like Speedway or Broadway), thereby uprooting all the businesses there? Or maybe we can have a highway that goes ABOVE the city. This IS 2009 - we ARE technically in 'The Future' so maybe we should all just get flying cars and then we can drive ABOVE the city.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_V7iZ39YZkw...tFlyingCar.jpg

Flying car is the best idea. From what i heard, Tucson look old but It's one of the top Technology City. We should have that soon.

From my experience, people cant judge Tucson by the outside. When i first going around UofA, Pima college and some other place, I look at the building and though :" Old f*cking sh*t". But when i get inside, it's just ... School in LA cant compare to this.

[JillBoBill]

Originally Posted by J3anaka

Flying car is the best idea.

You heard it, guys. My flying car idea is the best idea. Someone get Japan on the horn and tell them to get their skinny asses in gear.


And, really, Ritchie -- I'm not sure where you see empty buses, but the stops by my house are constantly teaming with weirdos and teenagers waiting. I see people all over town waiting for buses. I've never really looked IN a moving bus as I'm usually - you know - paying attention to the road while I drive.

Also, I'm tired of this 'the buses crowd the streets' whining. YOU crowd the streets. The bus is one vehicle! You are one person in a car all for yourself, multiplied by hundreds and it's the cars that crowd the streets. Plus, half the damned city has bus lanes or pull-offs for the stops.


http://randomdude.com/images/car-bus-bike.jpg

[Ritchie_az]

I don't ride the city bus in Tucson. Looking into a city bus here as I drive by or see them parked at bus stops, I've never seen one even half full. Usually, there are between 5-10 people, and I've seen many buses with 0 passengers (unless they're very short or lying down).
But countless times I've been behind a bus, where the bus stops don't have pull-outs (most of them don't), traffic gets backed up behind them--a bottleneck is created...a slowly moving bottleneck with frequent stops. Yes, the city buses create traffic problems.
I don't crowd the streets, because--guess what?--that is what the streets were created for. Tucson would be better off--both fiscally and with traffic movements--if they cancelled the buses and had some sort of dial-a-ride for those incapable of driving.

[Ritchie_az]

But if the city had created a decent freeway system, there would be far fewer traffic problems.

[Spot]

Originally Posted by JillBoBill

http://randomdude.com/images/car-bus-bike.jpg

Very cool pic.